IAM and their view of driving too slow
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Funny thing-peoples perceptions of other cars.
Generally most people avoid confrontation with the M5-I think it's probably because it looks like a unmarked police car from 100yds back.
Generally most people avoid confrontation with the M5-I think it's probably because it looks like a unmarked police car from 100yds back.
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Originally Posted by Moggy,Feb 8 2008, 09:06 AM
sometimes the trick is to catch them off guard, ie at the point they dawdle back to 45.
Every cockend in their Golf knows what's coming up behind them and makes it their life's mission to 'beat' it.
Stealthy it ain't.
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Originally Posted by dreamer,Feb 8 2008, 08:18 AM
Pulled out to overtake one car and he closed the gap between him and the two car in front.
Fortunately I'd done the hang out and take a look then blat past, rather than the triangular shaped overtake, and there was enough space to get past all 3 - however it meant going a bit quicker than I wanted to.
Fortunately I'd done the hang out and take a look then blat past, rather than the triangular shaped overtake, and there was enough space to get past all 3 - however it meant going a bit quicker than I wanted to.
Hanging back usually makes the car in front think any 'threat' of an overtake is removed. Change down, overtake and by the time the car in front realises, you are usually level and you can then use the slingshot of extra speed to get you where you want to be and the car being overtaken usually doesn't have time to close the gap.
Hope that makes sense but it seems to work for me.
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Originally Posted by NigelC,Feb 8 2008, 09:11 AM
Try hanging back a bit more before the overtake. This will often allow you to read the road a bit further ahead due to improved forward visibility.
Hanging back usually makes the car in front think any 'threat' of an overtake is removed. Change down, overtake and by the time the car in front realises, you are usually level and you can then use the slingshot of extra speed to get you where you want to be and the car being overtaken usually doesn't have time to close the gap.
Hope that makes sense but it seems to work for me.
Hanging back usually makes the car in front think any 'threat' of an overtake is removed. Change down, overtake and by the time the car in front realises, you are usually level and you can then use the slingshot of extra speed to get you where you want to be and the car being overtaken usually doesn't have time to close the gap.
Hope that makes sense but it seems to work for me.
So unless you've done the recommended 'move out, accelerate', rather than what most people do (accelerate, swing out) then you're vulnerable to rear-ending them if they have to brake suddenly.
And if you move out from a distance away, they see you coming and close the gap.
I don't think there is a safe way to pass someone who's determined to block you, the only thing to do is to let them have their sad little victory and pull back.
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I did what Mark said - move out, look, accelerate (and yes a powerful car certainly helps) - if you hang back too far you loose that amount of space when you come to overtake and as Mark says - you're closing on them very quickly leaving you no emergency-abort option.
By going out for a quick look you gain better visibility and an emergency opt-out option (i.e. pull back in) until the wise-guy behind you closes the gap anyway !!!
By going out for a quick look you gain better visibility and an emergency opt-out option (i.e. pull back in) until the wise-guy behind you closes the gap anyway !!!
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closing speed is quite high.
Obviously if the car being overtaken sees you approaching and duly closes the gap, you simply abort. With this progressive acceleration, not too much speed has been created at that time.
I learnt this from a defensive driving course a few years ago that was run by ex police drivers
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On the subject of overtaking... had a golf try and block my overtaking move this morning... dead straight rd and a 60mph limit.. the golf was doing 40ish.. i idicated gave plenty of notice and moved out to overtake.. just as i was getting up to it .. it moved out .. so i backed off thought nothing of it and gave it a second go... she did the same thing... this time it was done in an almost defensive driving manouver .. now this too me is dangerous.. why do people do this?.. because to me all this does is make a dangerous(and s2000 damaging) situation... sure you've all had this before at sometime but it really makes me mad