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Old 07-14-2009, 01:01 AM
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http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/236977/t...e_outlawed.html

So they'll spec minimum details for wet grip. How about let people make their own choices?
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Because you'll always get some chav knob end who thinks trackday tyres are cool and puts them on his chariot, uses them on the road in all weathers, wrecks his own car and takes a family in their MPV with him.

Track only tyres will still exist though.
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Will perhaps make track days a more complicated and expensive issue for those who currently run with track tyres. If they do ban them and any new replacement is nothing like as good as the old ones, then many will have to consider trailering their track day car or carrying a set of track wheels and tyres in a trailer or second vehicle and change wheels at the start and finish of the day.

I guess the quest now is for manufacturers to come up with a suitable replacement that meets any new regulation and still provides performance similar to what is now available, but clearly there will be some performance compromise by introducing a more conventional water releasing tread pattern over the current track tyre treads.
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Yes, more an inconvenience than anything else for people that actually make proper use of them.

I don't see the point in putting these tyres on heavy road cars.

Not so brilliant for light cars like Elises though that can probably justify something stickier.

That said, it may just move tyre technology on.

The Caterham Avon CR500s are great all rounders and I'm sure it wouldn't take much to develop something similar for the Elise.
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Originally Posted by Starlight,Jul 14 2009, 09:35 AM
Will perhaps make track days a more complicated and expensive issue for those who currently run with track tyres.
That's assuming trackdays allow non-road legal tyres. For liability and insurance reasons they may not.
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All these tyres are on the MSA list 1b of permitted tyres. I guess they will become more expensive and for track use only...
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Originally Posted by Dembo,Jul 14 2009, 09:37 AM
That's assuming trackdays allow non-road legal tyres. For liability and insurance reasons they may not.
I know a lot of trackdays specify "road legal" and "current MOT" ..

It's why pure slicks are hard to get ahold of.
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Originally Posted by lower,Jul 14 2009, 09:12 AM
Because you'll always get some chav knob end who thinks trackday tyres are cool and puts them on his chariot, uses them on the road in all weathers, wrecks his own car and takes a family in their MPV with him.

Track only tyres will still exist though.
My mate had 888's on his 200SX (his other road tyres were just below the legal limits). We went to JAE and it was the year the storm came in and people lost tents.

He had to drive home late, and very slowly. The car was *very* twitchy.
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Originally Posted by lower,Jul 14 2009, 09:12 AM
Because you'll always get some chav knob end who thinks trackday tyres are cool and puts them on his chariot, uses them on the road in all weathers, wrecks his own car and takes a family in their MPV with him.

Track only tyres will still exist though.
Thinking of anyone in particular?
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I might start stock piling A048's then, as that's what my car is designed to use

The grip on fun tightens further....


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