Your choice for affordable daily driver/track car?
#31
Originally Posted by Amer,Jan 16 2010, 03:56 PM
and this is based on assumption?
#33
NC Miata, assuming you also have the budget for minimal suspension mods (springs/sways, or even better coilovers) and bigger wheels/tires.
It's more comfortable and torquey than the S2000 for daily driving, but out-handles and out-brakes the S on the track, while being cheaper on consumables. Those flared fenders accommodate really fat rubber for the car's weight. Add intake and full exhaust, on the power-to-weight ratio isn't that far off the S.
So far, it's been my favorite track car, all things considered. The upcoming Toyota FT-86 looks promising as well.
It's more comfortable and torquey than the S2000 for daily driving, but out-handles and out-brakes the S on the track, while being cheaper on consumables. Those flared fenders accommodate really fat rubber for the car's weight. Add intake and full exhaust, on the power-to-weight ratio isn't that far off the S.
So far, it's been my favorite track car, all things considered. The upcoming Toyota FT-86 looks promising as well.
#34
Originally Posted by exb00st,Jan 16 2010, 07:28 PM
No, it's based on the fact that you said it would be 80% daily driven
80% daily driven suggests like 5-6 events a month. The 5-6 events a year - which I find is more likely with casual HPDE folks - is more like 95-97% daily driven
#35
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evo is pretty good. i find a two seater is not adequate for daily driving these days. the four doors and 5 seats are very useful. It's a bit more expensive on the track, but it's not porsche or audi expensive.
20% track is a bit.
assumer 15k miles total, that means 3000 track miles. That's a lot. More then any hpders I know do in a year.
I did 10 a year with my evo first year I owned it. that was tough to do. finding enough events and enough time was harder then you would think. That was no more then 1000 track miles that year.
20% track is a bit.
assumer 15k miles total, that means 3000 track miles. That's a lot. More then any hpders I know do in a year.
I did 10 a year with my evo first year I owned it. that was tough to do. finding enough events and enough time was harder then you would think. That was no more then 1000 track miles that year.
#36
Originally Posted by Chris S,Jan 16 2010, 06:31 PM
NC Miata, assuming you also have the budget for minimal suspension mods (springs/sways, or even better coilovers) and bigger wheels/tires.
It's more comfortable and torquey than the S2000 for daily driving, but out-handles and out-brakes the S on the track, while being cheaper on consumables. Those flared fenders accommodate really fat rubber for the car's weight. Add intake and full exhaust, on the power-to-weight ratio isn't that far off the S.
So far, it's been my favorite track car, all things considered. The upcoming Toyota FT-86 looks promising as well.
It's more comfortable and torquey than the S2000 for daily driving, but out-handles and out-brakes the S on the track, while being cheaper on consumables. Those flared fenders accommodate really fat rubber for the car's weight. Add intake and full exhaust, on the power-to-weight ratio isn't that far off the S.
So far, it's been my favorite track car, all things considered. The upcoming Toyota FT-86 looks promising as well.
#37
Originally Posted by waltk88,Jan 16 2010, 07:50 PM
Favorite track car even over the Cayman S?
Obviously, it doesn't have the same power, but it handles better. Most importantly, it doesn't have any oiling or power steering failure issues that 987's are susceptible to.
Consumables are another huge difference. Tires are much cheaper, as are brake pads, and light weight means they're relatively easy on them all things considered.
I didn't think CS maint. was too expensive for street use, but those extended intervals become irrelevant when tracking your car much, and suddenly $230+ oil changes become a lot more expensive. My last NC oil change was $24.95 (DIY) using Castrol Synthetic and a good filter.
Also, the NC is easy to work on. I never did any of my own maintenance on the CS - just having to use pucks @ the jacking points, having to get the car level to drain the oil, poor engine access, etc., made it not very inviting to wrench on.
Lastly, my insurance company eliminated on-track coverage from my policy, and I can stomach the financial risk of losing my Miata much more easily than the CS.
I dearly loved my CS, but my NC has hung well against the ones I've encountered on the track. I will say that the CS is a better DD than the NC or S2000 (and most other 2 seat sports cars) IMO...more comfortable/spacious, better seats, quieter, more grunt, etc.
#39
I bought a new S2000 for daily driving.
And kept the old one for track.
But if I had to choose between the S2000 and the S2000... I'd pick the S2000.
It highly depends on what kind of daily drive you have (rural / urban / suburban) and what kind of tracking you do (HPDE, TT, W2W).
And kept the old one for track.
But if I had to choose between the S2000 and the S2000... I'd pick the S2000.
It highly depends on what kind of daily drive you have (rural / urban / suburban) and what kind of tracking you do (HPDE, TT, W2W).