GT350RS

To this....
Just want to point out that the RS is riding on a platform that's been around since the 2011 MY.
So this all-new CTR finished one point ahead of a car riding on a 6 year old platform.
I can concede that this Honda, styling aside, is a remarkable feat of engineering...But let's give credit where it's due to the Focus as well...

TheDonEffect

New focus is around the corner...

VilleS2K

But it's also the platform that they currently sell so your point is semi moot.

JonBoy

I think most would agree that a FWD car beating a higher-powered AWD car (both equally focused) is a feat in and of itself. You have to be better in just about every other area because you know you're going to lose in the acceleration tests (at a minimum).

white98ls

Put another way, the CTR beat the 1-year-old Focus RS (RS came out as a 2016 model, CTR is 2017) without AWD, while giving up 44hp and costing $5k less as tested. That doesn't sound as good, does it?

The new-gen Focus RS doesn't exist yet, and isn't even a certainty to be produced at this point. If that happens in 2-4 years, then we can rematch. For now the CTR wins...

GT350RS

Don't see how. The CTR is only JUST better than a car that has it's roots in a 6 year old C segment commuter car? I've read that same article, and the RS lost ONLY due to the stiffer ride over a long distance. That's not a performance characteristic, that's an opinion.

boosted180sx

The whole article was based on opinions anyways.
It was a 1 point difference because the RS scored more on ergonomics, interior/exterior styling, features/amenities which are all subjective.

We get it, you prefer the RS over the CTR. There's nothing wrong with that. Different strokes for different folks.

GT350RS

Better read the article again...

It won in the vehicle category 83 to 76.
It won the powertrain category 52 to 49
It lost in chassis 49 to 59...with 5 of those points being on one single item...ride.

Yes I do. The RS is more diverse. It's faster, better looking and can do more with AWD. It doesn't have anything to do with badges. I own a Honda just like the rest of you here.

boosted180sx

That's exactly what I mean. I said it won by only one point due to subjective parts of the comparison. The RS "won" in the vehicle category with majority of the point differential in exterior/interior/amenities which are all subjective. A lot of people don't like the fake vents and the outrageous looks it has.

So, once again it is all subjective to whoever is looking at it. To you, it's more faster, better looking. That's fine. I have nothing against that.
To me, I think the focus is too boring looking (maybe it’s the ricer in me speaking ), interior feels cheap, seating position is too high, its just as fast as the Type R (aside from a launch), however awd is a great thing to have but I dont really care for it here in socal. Only thing I like on the focus better than the Type R is the pops and crackles from the exhaust lol . The Type R definitely lacks in that department.

I still consider it a great car and can understand why people like it. It’s great that you like it. There are people out there who don’t agree. It's just the nature of the game.

i also don’t care for the badges. I like all cars in general. Import, or domestic. Just because I own all honda branded cars doesn't mean I'm an advocate to Honda. I give credit where credit is due. When I was looking for a new car, I test drove a new STI and the RS also before i ultimately decided to pick up the Type R instead. It was kind of a hard decision considering they didn't even let me test drive it, but I don't regret it one bit.

woodburn

I wouldn’t even consider buying a focus over a civic type r and I’m a ford guy.