Why is the new CTR so slow?
#41
This is a stupid post. First your comparing a fwd car to a rwd car and wondering why the 0-60 times are better for the rwd? Don’t you understand traction issues on the line with fwd? Don’t you understand power to weight aren’t the only variables? Dont you understand that 0-60 times are not accurate why to test acceleration? But are based more on traction off the line. You need to spend some time at the drag strip.
OP: "I am not talking about 0-100km/h now since all FWD cars will suck here. I am talking about 100-200km/h readings, something that is relevant for track driving."
#45
Sorry to burst your bubbles but I think the CTR will hold its value. The CTR has a big enough cult following that all those people who couldn't afford buying it new will be trying to get their hands on a used one. Obviously car condition matters but there is no way a good condition CTR will lose $20k in 5 years.
#46
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Thank you, was surprised everybody kept bringing up the HP figure but no mention of torque. I did a quick search (too lazy to search longer) but could not find a CTR dyno graph showing proper torque curve / RPM, but I'd guess the M2 has significant more area under the curve. I'd love to be proven wrong
#47
Sorry to burst your bubbles but I think the CTR will hold its value. The CTR has a big enough cult following that all those people who couldn't afford buying it new will be trying to get their hands on a used one. Obviously car condition matters but there is no way a good condition CTR will lose $20k in 5 years.
I agree- a 5 year old CTR will not be worth $15,000 in 5 years ($35,000-$20,000). I'll tell you this- and in 5 years can call me out if I am wrong- but the massochist who bought a new CTR for $60K is not going to have a $40,000 car- no effin way- they are gonna take a complete crap kicking unless they don't drive the car at all for 20 years. Their car will be valued the same as market value as the guy who bought his/hers at MSRP (like we can in Canada) in 5 years.
the CTR will hold more value in 5 years than an M2 (based on % loss). The maintenance on the Honda is more reasonable for me. I don't pay people to maintain my cars. I keep cars forever. I would rather maintain a 10 year old Honda than an 10 year old M2. You have completely misinterpreted my post.
So, to stay on track, the CTR is not slow.
Darcy
Last edited by darcyw; 11-22-2017 at 05:49 PM.
#48
Registered User
Thank you, was surprised everybody kept bringing up the HP figure but no mention of torque. I did a quick search (too lazy to search longer) but could not find a CTR dyno graph showing proper torque curve / RPM, but I'd guess the M2 has significant more area under the curve. I'd love to be proven wrong
this is from my own Type R that i dynoed at ~700 miles. You can see the power delivery there.
#49
There has to be at least a 30 percent price difference between these two cars. That being said, I think the real question is which car would you rather buy, assuming you can comfortably afford the $50,000 M2.
#50