'whose' next ride will be electric/hybrid?
05-02-2008, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 2 2008, 07:42 AM
Your post makes no sense in regards to my "fail math" comment.
A Prius vs Yaris is what I am talking about. The Yaris is 35mpg while the prius is 40. The price difference is a bit over $12000. a 5mpg savings would take you YEARS to make back the original $12,000 you spent on the Prius over the Yaris.
A Prius vs Yaris is what I am talking about. The Yaris is 35mpg while the prius is 40. The price difference is a bit over $12000. a 5mpg savings would take you YEARS to make back the original $12,000 you spent on the Prius over the Yaris.
We're often more drawn to the frequent gas cost rather than one time big difference in price even though gas cost will not earn back the difference.
05-02-2008, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 2 2008, 07:42 AM
Your post makes no sense in regards to my "fail math" comment.
A Prius vs Yaris is what I am talking about. The Yaris is 35mpg while the prius is 40. The price difference is a bit over $12000. a 5mpg savings would take you YEARS to make back the original $12,000 you spent on the Prius over the Yaris.
A Prius vs Yaris is what I am talking about. The Yaris is 35mpg while the prius is 40. The price difference is a bit over $12000. a 5mpg savings would take you YEARS to make back the original $12,000 you spent on the Prius over the Yaris.
Prius = Yaris?
Have you actually seen what is installed on a Prius? They are not even in the same class. They are closer to the Camry's class. They put in toys equal to fully loaded Accords. The last time I checked, even an Accord did not have a keyless system.
It's like saying a TDI Golf is like a Smart. Why spend extra $12k when you can drive a Smart?
05-02-2008, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 1 2008, 09:57 AM
3)Hybrids are for people who failed math in 4th grade.
I am wondering who actually is failing math.
Is it the new Prius buyers in April? It was reported that Prius sales grew to 54% for April year-to-year. And Camry Hybrid now out selling v6 Camry, and sales up 40%.
OR
Is it GM's execs and accountants? Having to cut 3550 jobs. Overall sales down 22.7% for April. And lost $3.25 Bil last quarter.
05-02-2008, 10:43 AM
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A few people did calculations on here, a couple of years ago, concerning the increased price of a Hybrid over the regular model. At $2.50 a gallon it would take too long to realize the benefit, but now at $4.00, next $5.00, and so on, Hybrids are starting to look more attractive for someone who NEEDS a new car.
05-02-2008, 12:03 PM
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It is still going to take almost a decade to save your money back...not only that, how much are the batteries when they wear down?
As for carbon footprints, how is it good for the environment to have a landfill full of lithium batteries?
As for carbon footprints, how is it good for the environment to have a landfill full of lithium batteries?
05-02-2008, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 2 2008, 02:03 PM
It is still going to take almost a decade to save your money back...not only that, how much are the batteries when they wear down?
As for carbon footprints, how is it good for the environment to have a landfill full of lithium batteries?
As for carbon footprints, how is it good for the environment to have a landfill full of lithium batteries?
My other argument though is choice. What if I actually (and this is the stretch) LIKE a Prius and don't care for the particular models that are diesels?
05-02-2008, 12:32 PM
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I think someone else here mentioned some Prius that are being used as taxi's in British Columbia and which now have over 300k (192,000 miles approx) on the original batteries.
I have seen the actual test data (though not sure if it was British Columbia to be honest) and Toyota has claimed that the battery packs were still operating at over 95% efficiency.
I have seen the actual test data (though not sure if it was British Columbia to be honest) and Toyota has claimed that the battery packs were still operating at over 95% efficiency.
05-02-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 2 2008, 12:03 PM
It is still going to take almost a decade to save your money back...not only that, how much are the batteries when they wear down?
As for carbon footprints, how is it good for the environment to have a landfill full of lithium batteries?
As for carbon footprints, how is it good for the environment to have a landfill full of lithium batteries?
Thing 2: The batteries are nearly 100% recyclable.
Toyota will buy used packs back for $200. They don't go into landfills.
05-02-2008, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 1 2008, 09:57 AM
3)Hybrids are for people who failed math in 4th grade.
A hybrid costs $15,000 more than a gas counterpart.
A hybrid costs $15,000 more than a gas counterpart.
A Civic hybrid does not cost $15K more than a gasoline Civic.
Don't compare a Prius to a Yaris - totally different cars altogether. Compare the same model but one with a hybrid engine and the other with gasoline, such as Civic hybrid vs. regular Civic, Camry hybrid vs. regular Camry, etc. On average, the hybrid version only costs about $3K more, but can offer many other benefits in contrast. For one, some people want to use less fuel, waste less time at gas stations, leave an environmentally conscious footprint, etc. Will all of them make back the money difference in fuel consumption? Maybe, maybe not, but there are other factors to consider.I'm sorry, but your statement is ridiculously stupid.
I surely didn't fail math in 4th grade (or 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th), quite the contrary actually, but I'm going to get a hybrid for personal reasons.