What is a sports car really?!
#11
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Originally Posted by aklucsarits,May 16 2006, 06:22 AM
But the traditional definition. excludes sedans or 2+2 coupes from the category. So for example, the old Nissan 300ZX is a sports car. But the 2+2 version of the 300ZX is not - rather it would be considered a "sports car-derrived" vehicle.
The difference between a Sports car, and a Sport-y car.
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But the 2+2 version of the 300ZX is not - rather it would be considered a "sports car-derrived" vehicle.
So a Porsche 911 is not a sports car? Do people at SCCA really say a 2+2 300ZX is not a sports car?
It's about intentionally sacrificing practicality and conveniences for the sake of pure driving enjoyment.
#13
Attempting to draw hard and fast rules for what is and is not a "sports car" only serves to demonstrate how silly that exercise is.
Once could argue that a "sports car" is any car designed from the start as a sporting automobile. One could certainly suggest that since rear doors are nothing but a compromise benefiting only the passengers, they don't belong on a sports car, and any car so equipped is not, by rule of exclusion, a "sports car," despite any other similarities. I think the main defining rule is a "sports car" is geared towards driving and driver. Back seats and a passenger side door are merely the trappings of a street car, if you will, similar to license plates and bumpers. You can't expect to sell a car these days without them, so there they are. Some "sports cars" may be more stripped than others, but none have a pick-up bed and four or more doors, with third-row seating.
I'd always argue that sedans are never "sports cars," no matter how fast they might be. But not all 2 seat coupes are sports cars, or we'd be calling pick-ups "sports cars." There is no need for a car to be uncomfortable or obnoxious in order to be a "sports car," no matter how many inthe past happened to be that way.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,May 16 2006, 11:01 AM
Practicality and convenience suffer as a result of making a car more sporting, but removing these things doesn't make a car a sports car. According to this logic, if I take a Yugo and remove tha back seats and power windows, you have a sports car!
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No, its just too hard to define, so there's not really any point in trying. Wikipedia is good for the general idea, but look at the revision history of Wikipedia definitions - its like this thread on a whole new level.
Don't look to hard at it, and the definition is simple. Btw, the S2000 doesn't give things up, it just doesn't have them included!
Don't look to hard at it, and the definition is simple. Btw, the S2000 doesn't give things up, it just doesn't have them included!
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[QUOTE=Saki GT,May 16 2006, 10:01 AM]
I have a hard time believing that two extra "seats" as are found in many sports cars changes the whole deinition of the car.
So a Porsche 911 is not a sports car?
I have a hard time believing that two extra "seats" as are found in many sports cars changes the whole deinition of the car.
So a Porsche 911 is not a sports car?
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I like Road and Track's definition:
"It should be as graceful as a beautiful women, lithe as a panther, slick
as a gigolo's hair, flexible as a broken runner, accelerate like a rocket,
be painted like a cockatoo, and sing like a bird at speed." "What is a
Sports Car" June 1948
Obviously, "accelerate like a rocket" is subjective, especially considering the time period it was written, but the rest seems pretty good to me.
"It should be as graceful as a beautiful women, lithe as a panther, slick
as a gigolo's hair, flexible as a broken runner, accelerate like a rocket,
be painted like a cockatoo, and sing like a bird at speed." "What is a
Sports Car" June 1948
Obviously, "accelerate like a rocket" is subjective, especially considering the time period it was written, but the rest seems pretty good to me.
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Originally Posted by Chris Stack,May 16 2006, 05:17 PM
I like Road and Track's definition:
"It should be as graceful as a beautiful women, lithe as a panther, slick
as a gigolo's hair, flexible as a broken runner, accelerate like a rocket,
be painted like a cockatoo, and sing like a bird at speed." "What is a
Sports Car" June 1948
Obviously, "accelerate like a rocket" is subjective, especially considering the time period it was written, but the rest seems pretty good to me.
"It should be as graceful as a beautiful women, lithe as a panther, slick
as a gigolo's hair, flexible as a broken runner, accelerate like a rocket,
be painted like a cockatoo, and sing like a bird at speed." "What is a
Sports Car" June 1948
Obviously, "accelerate like a rocket" is subjective, especially considering the time period it was written, but the rest seems pretty good to me.