What happened to t-tops?
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The NSX is targa top... not t-top, but just the same IMO. I LOVED the t-tops on my MR2 turbo... they werent that bad in the sun or winter either... they had covers that could go over the inside of the glass or you could take those off and leave the tops on. I wish a japanese manufacturer would make a nice turbo sports car with ttops again. No for American t-tops tho.
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i think t-top help to alleviate the chassis bending that comes up with a full targa, but t-tops also exasperate twisting problems, though.
i think since t-tops require removal of 2 panels, and a targa only requires one, cars that go this route choose the targa top. As long as the do the required reinforcement to the floor plan, it works.
since most cars are FWD today, they have no significant longitudinal tunnel. with RWD cars, that tunnel made the car ridid. With a more flat FWD car, cutting out the roof really created a log of problems.
The only targa FWD car I can think of is the Del Sol. Nice in concept, but the chassis flexibility really makes them squeak and creak.
i think since t-tops require removal of 2 panels, and a targa only requires one, cars that go this route choose the targa top. As long as the do the required reinforcement to the floor plan, it works.
since most cars are FWD today, they have no significant longitudinal tunnel. with RWD cars, that tunnel made the car ridid. With a more flat FWD car, cutting out the roof really created a log of problems.
The only targa FWD car I can think of is the Del Sol. Nice in concept, but the chassis flexibility really makes them squeak and creak.
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i can only think of a few cars that had fwd t-tops...pulsar...hmmm maybe that 's it.
i think that's probably because they only came in sports cars
i think that's probably because they only came in sports cars
#25
i'll add another one to the MR2 turbo...
i own one w/ t-tops...i had a N/A w/ t-tops as well.....
very cool option to have in the summer...girls like them as well,
the only bad thing about them: on both my MR2's the t-top leaks...and on both it was on the passenger side.....
i own one w/ t-tops...i had a N/A w/ t-tops as well.....
very cool option to have in the summer...girls like them as well,
the only bad thing about them: on both my MR2's the t-top leaks...and on both it was on the passenger side.....
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1995 del Sol Si: targa top with roll down rear windshield. Talk about chassis flex!!! However, I would still drive in the Ozarks, especially HWY 7, had great fun, top-less! And, the roof NEVER leaked!!! Hard to compete in SCCA Solo II with such body flex; especially as I was forced to remove the roof because of similar stories of American cars dumping their tops during the course! Still have it; but will become my daughter's. It's a "chick car."
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#27
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ttops/targas are just a pain in the butt, period. hell, we put down other convertible tops that take longer to put up/down than ours, so how much more annoying do you think it is to have to park your car, get out of your car, remove the panels, store them in the trunk/hatch, get back into your car, and drive away??
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well the problem with convertibles is that they aren't very attractive by and large with the top up. the t-tops and targa keep the smooth look of the coupe with a top open feeling. plus t-tops and some targas offer a glass roof that so you can look up and see the sky even with the top on. try that in the convertible.
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Originally Posted by sodaking663rd,May 2 2005, 11:34 AM
well the problem with convertibles is that they aren't very attractive by and large with the top up. the t-tops and targa keep the smooth look of the coupe with a top open feeling. plus t-tops and some targas offer a glass roof that so you can look up and see the sky even with the top on. try that in the convertible.
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Originally Posted by VTEC_Junkie,May 2 2005, 01:27 AM
ttops/targas are just a pain in the butt, period. hell, we put down other convertible tops that take longer to put up/down than ours, so how much more annoying do you think it is to have to park your car, get out of your car, remove the panels, store them in the trunk/hatch, get back into your car, and drive away??
good call on not getting that convertible look, while sustaining the coupe look. I just dont like the look of verts, blah! sorry!
both good arguments, either way they should be an option.
what i do like is the caddy XLR, SLK's, SC430, and other cars that hide their tops, although adding weight and loosing space, its nice to have both a vert and a coupe.