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Old 09-01-2007, 02:36 PM
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I know there are other threads about the 1-series, but I was just wanted to ask what people are expecting? how it will stack up against the current (or near future) cars and what will make the 1-series better?:

R32 $33K 250hp (awd)
RX-8 $27K to $32-ish 212hp (low weight)
EVO mid-$30s 300hp
STi mid-$30s 300hp
328i $32K 230hp
335i $39K 300hp
IS250 $30K 204hp
IS350 $36K 306hp
A3 $26k - $34K 200-250hp

128 (?) under $30K 230hp
135 (?) low-mid $30s 300hp

For the most part listed the MSRP you have to add optons for exampe the R32 is not much but for the 3-er or the IS can be another $7K more.

I listed the lower price of the 3-series sedan a couple grand more for the coupe but I figure if you want to go up to the price into a 3-series you may want to save a few bucks off the coupe.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:13 AM
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128 will compete with WRX ( not STi ), RX-8, and preowned 330 ZHP.

I've been hanging out on a BMW forum recently. Its residents have doubts that 128/135 will be on par with 330 ZHP as far as handling/behind-the-wheel feel. A lot of complaints about numb/disconnected/vague feel of E9* and they are afraid that 1-series will be the same.
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Originally Posted by rai,Sep 1 2007, 02:36 PM
135 (?) low-mid $30s 300hp
Keep dreaming.

High 30K to mid 40K.....

Old 09-02-2007, 08:26 AM
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[QUOTE=SIIK2NR,Sep 2 2007, 07:49 AM] Keep dreaming.
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base has to start in the mid to low 30's at most for the twin turbo engine. It won't make sense to make it more expensive then the 335i with the same engine.
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rai - you've broken your mold! I expected that you'd phrase this post as "If you had $70K to spend on a 135 BMW and one of its competitors, what model car would the competitor be?"



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[QUOTE=rai,Sep 2 2007, 08:26 AM] as i said, am talking base price.
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Originally Posted by SIIK2NR,Sep 2 2007, 10:49 AM
Keep dreaming.

High 30K to mid 40K.....
Why would they price the 135i with a couple G's of the 335i? I expect base price of the 135i to be $32k - $35k easy. I don't understand why that's hard for so many to believe?

I will definetly be cross-shopping the 135i and Evo X. Personally I like the Bimmer more as it's a coupe, RWD, V6, and IMO a more complete car. If the Evo is the better preformer, that's probably what I'll get. I'd still rather have $45k and get a 08 C6 though.
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Originally Posted by Highrpmek,Sep 2 2007, 04:53 PM
I'd still rather ... get a 08 C6 though.


I must be getting old


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