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Old 05-15-2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan,May 15 2008, 03:46 AM
The H20->H2 + O2 via electrolysis concept WILL NOT WORK as has already been pointed out. The electrical drain on the alternator to do this (greater load on the engine) will require more energy than burning the H2 + O2 will give back.
You may be right but I am not sure if you are. Mike, the guy at my work that is using this, has his power coming from a wiper motor wire. I am not a car genius but isn't the power needed to run a wiper motor pretty low?
Old 05-15-2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug1627,May 15 2008, 10:45 AM
You may be right but I am not sure if you are. Mike, the guy at my work that is using this, has his power coming from a wiper motor wire. I am not a car genius but isn't the power needed to run a wiper motor pretty low?
It doesn't matter whether you are pulling 10,000 amps or 1 amp. However much you put into the electrolysis, you can not get that much back again when you burn the resulting hydrogen. Efficiency is never 100%.
Old 05-15-2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug1627,May 15 2008, 09:45 AM
You may be right but I am not sure if you are. Mike, the guy at my work that is using this, has his power coming from a wiper motor wire. I am not a car genius but isn't the power needed to run a wiper motor pretty low?
However much power he is putting into hydrolysis, he is getting LESS than that much out.
Old 05-15-2008 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Kremlin,May 15 2008, 01:06 PM
However much power he is putting into hydrolysis, he is getting LESS than that much out.
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Old 05-15-2008 | 11:16 AM
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I wonder if my new, fancy pants Pulstar Miracle spark plugs will work with the Miracle Water-as-Fuel Crap? Anybody know?????


Old 05-15-2008 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ryoung_57,May 15 2008, 09:09 AM
Water injection was used on one of the Evo's wasn't it? While water injection makes sense and has it's benefits, just sticking the water hose into the gas tank is crazy. The fuel and water won't mix, and you'll just end up at the repair shop.
It was a cold water mist spray onto the radiator to cool the engine temps (popular in rally cars), not to be confused with the main topic of the thread...which is water + gas fueling the engine.
Old 05-15-2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GPMike,May 15 2008, 12:37 PM
It was a cold water mist spray onto the radiator to cool the engine temps (popular in rally cars), not to be confused with the main topic of the thread...which is water + gas fueling the engine.
i've never heard of the water being sprayed onto the radiator before, maybe liquid nitrogen on some intercoolers like a cryokit but anyways, i think what that post was regarding was using water inside the combustion chamber to control the temperature on detonation and in turn advance timing. like water+meth injection, or as i think some people were hinting at, a cold fog system running into the intake full time.

as seen here....http://youtube.com/watch?v=l37U7D8AnwU

it deals with water, but its a very diffrent idea then what the OP was about which was using browns gas which is created from water.


anywho, i'm gonna throw my hho cell on my car later this week so ill get back to you guys with the result on if this is BS or not.
Old 05-15-2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jellyfish,May 15 2008, 02:11 PM
anywho, i'm gonna throw my hho cell on my car later this week so ill get back to you guys with the result on if this is BS or not.
How did you make it?

Lets see some pics.
Old 05-15-2008 | 02:40 PM
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My brother has been testing this out on an old high mileage S-10.
Old 05-15-2008 | 04:50 PM
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why not just take a tank of oxygen and use that? then you get more power with less throttle input. or maybe just pressurize the existing air to get better fuel economy by having a higher MEP.

wait a second.... what's that stuff Zex makes again? and has anyone heard of this comptech company?

....that's what happens when this is taken to the next level.


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