Hello All,

I have been researching the "Water into Gas" topic recently. I have not been able to come to my decision of whether or not to give this a try. There is a gentleman at my work that built his own and claims to be getting 40+ MPG on a 4 door Saturn with over 200k miles. Anyone else been looking into this? What are your thoughts?

 

If it does anything, it is leaning out the fuel/air ratio. That will improve gas mileage, but you can do the same just by remapping the ECU. It also causes the engine to run hotter, which can be a durability issue.

It seems so obvious that I hesitate to mention it, but you clearly can not get any net energy from breaking water apart and then recombining it. So if there is any real effect, it has to be from something else, and the FAR is the only thing that makes sense to me.

 

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HA, I can build one for 50$.

 

forgive me if i am wrong but are you saying he's adding water into gas?

water is not compressable, if you fill y our cylinder with water and try to compress it= bend valve, piston goes boom

 

The leaning of the air/fuel ratio makes sense.


Apparently the electric going into the water and baking soda makes hydrogen which is then sucked in through a return line. I am leery of it so I figured I would ask this forum about it.

 

Not at all. Here is a link to check out. http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm

 

No, the gimmick is to use electrolysis to crack water into hydrogen and oxygen gas, then to put that gas into the intake air.

Perhaps they may also feed in some water vapor too.

Water vapor (water injection) will increase the massflow and also cool down the combustion temperatures. The hydrogen and oxygen will burn, but that can't get you as much energy back as it cost to generate it in the first place (thermodynamics).

Since the only energy source is still the fuel, that means the only way your fuel economy can go up is if the engine is somehow operating more efficiently.

That's why I suspect the main effect (other than placebo) is FAR. But nobody ever seems to measure any of this stuff to see what's really happening (if anything).

 

Mike, I believe you are onto something with the Air/Fuel Ratio. Do you know anyway I would be able to measure engine temp or fuel ratios on my co-workers vehicle. I wouldn't mind doing a test with this "water 4 gas" on and also a test with it off.

 

thanks

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