Vette versus Porsche
10-25-2009, 09:33 PM
#21
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There was a lot of questionable stuff going on there, but the end..that was just out of control. Makes for good viewing though. NASCAR aint got nuttin on dat! 
10-26-2009, 09:46 AM
#26
Originally Posted by rockville,Oct 25 2009, 07:38 PM
Watching the video it was clear the Porsche deliberately spun the Corvette.
The tail lights of the Porsche are easy to follow and it looks like the Porsche ran him up to the wall and then stayed straight. It does not appear that the 911 turned left.
It looks like the Corvette tried to sideswipe the 911 AFTER it made the pass on the inside left of the straight away. The Corvette was past the 911 which is why it spun out in front of the 911.
Feel free to correct me. I have gone back and forth several times, but after watching that last video I mentioned, I think I have it figured out. lol
10-26-2009, 09:54 AM
#27
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There was no reason the Porsche needed to be right up on the inside wall other than to try to block the Vette who was in the process of passing him. Turn 11 had a very slight bump by the Vette, but did not disrupt the Porsche at all.
Not to mention all the other times the Porsche blocked the Vette and ran him slightly off the track on more than a few occasions.
Great racing, but the pin by the Porsche on the final straightaway was uncalled for.
Not to mention all the other times the Porsche blocked the Vette and ran him slightly off the track on more than a few occasions.
Great racing, but the pin by the Porsche on the final straightaway was uncalled for.
10-26-2009, 10:13 AM
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Mr. E.G.,
Right before the Corvette spun it looks like the Porsche slightly noses into the Corvette. Had the Corvette moved into the Porsche the Porsche's nose would have moved away from the wall the entire time.
Both drivers had done a few dirty moves but really I think the Porsche seemed to have done a few more blocks and pushed the Corvette off the track several times earlier on. They weren't dirty but they weren't clean either. I do think the Corvette was trying to bump on the last corner but that was as much just trying to regain what had been lost to the Porsche's bump in turn 1.
The final part was clearly the Porsche trying to force the Corvette into the wall. After both cars were heading straight the Porsche continued to move towards the wall. The Corvette had no were to go. Riley of Riley and Scott seems to feel the Porsche driver was over the line as well.
Right before the Corvette spun it looks like the Porsche slightly noses into the Corvette. Had the Corvette moved into the Porsche the Porsche's nose would have moved away from the wall the entire time.
Both drivers had done a few dirty moves but really I think the Porsche seemed to have done a few more blocks and pushed the Corvette off the track several times earlier on. They weren't dirty but they weren't clean either. I do think the Corvette was trying to bump on the last corner but that was as much just trying to regain what had been lost to the Porsche's bump in turn 1.
The final part was clearly the Porsche trying to force the Corvette into the wall. After both cars were heading straight the Porsche continued to move towards the wall. The Corvette had no were to go. Riley of Riley and Scott seems to feel the Porsche driver was over the line as well.
10-26-2009, 10:32 AM
#29
The Porsche wasn't trying to force him into the wall, as he stayed straight eventually (ie, he forced the other driver to CONCENTRATE on not hitting the wall but he didn't get him to hit the wall).
The Porsche got hit on the last corner so he decided to crowd the Vette. The Vette was still ahead but either decided to try and move away from the wall (thereby hitting the Porsche and spinning himself out) or else the Porsche made a bumping move (mid-straight) to spin the Vette.
I didn't see the Porsche make a move mid-straight to bump the Vette so I don't think the Porsche was the instigator of the actual final spin/crash. He was crowding him but he wasn't tapping/pushing him.
The background is that Bergmeister got spun in 2007 and he wasn't going to be pushed around this time. It wasn't Magnesson that spun him, either, but you can't blame him for pushing back after the lovetap on the final corner (which DID upset the car; how could it not?).
The Porsche got hit on the last corner so he decided to crowd the Vette. The Vette was still ahead but either decided to try and move away from the wall (thereby hitting the Porsche and spinning himself out) or else the Porsche made a bumping move (mid-straight) to spin the Vette.
I didn't see the Porsche make a move mid-straight to bump the Vette so I don't think the Porsche was the instigator of the actual final spin/crash. He was crowding him but he wasn't tapping/pushing him.
The background is that Bergmeister got spun in 2007 and he wasn't going to be pushed around this time. It wasn't Magnesson that spun him, either, but you can't blame him for pushing back after the lovetap on the final corner (which DID upset the car; how could it not?).
