UAW - screwing GM yet again...
10-04-2010, 09:03 AM
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UAW - screwing GM yet again...
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/02/report-...e-repairs-ends/
So, brand new cars coming off the line that immediately need to be repaired are sent to a non-Union shop for the repairs, and the UAW cries foul. UAW employees are building broken cars to begin with, and then want to get paid to fix their sloppy work?
Another reason we don't need the UAW.
So, brand new cars coming off the line that immediately need to be repaired are sent to a non-Union shop for the repairs, and the UAW cries foul. UAW employees are building broken cars to begin with, and then want to get paid to fix their sloppy work?
Another reason we don't need the UAW.
GM's Lordstown plant builds the Chevrolet Cruze, but when plant management needed the cars coming off the line repaired, it didn't use plant workers; it sent the cars to an outside repair shop. That didn't make UAW leadership happy. The union's response was to draw up a leaflet telling workers that "management is not your friend," and to take their discontent to the press with the message that things haven't really changed.
Local 112 president said the issue was resolved the next day. For its part, General Motors says it has met with the UAW and a "resolution [is] expected soon." The situation was blamed on the pressure that management and labor are under to get the Cruze right. From the outside, this doesn't look like a productive way to achieve that end.
Local 112 president said the issue was resolved the next day. For its part, General Motors says it has met with the UAW and a "resolution [is] expected soon." The situation was blamed on the pressure that management and labor are under to get the Cruze right. From the outside, this doesn't look like a productive way to achieve that end.
10-04-2010, 10:11 AM
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Not much of an article. It seems more inflammatory than descriptive. First, we don't know what type of repairs we are talking about. Typically those repairs would be called rework and they aren't uncommon on most complex products. On a car an example could be a paint scratch or grease mark someplace. We don't know how often this happens. Are we talking 1 in 10 or 1 in 1000 cars. So if we are talking 1 in 1000 cars it's possible GM is simply sending these cars to an "outside" vendor to clean the carpet stain out or to touch up the paint (outside could be a vendor co-located in the GM plant). In this case the amount of rework would be minor and not indicative of an out of control manufacturing process. It's hard to say if the UAW is right to claim this is a violation of their labor agreement.
On the UAW side, we don't know if this is really a plant level complaint or just a few noisy members who filed a complaint and are trying to cause a stir. We don't know much in the way of real details so it's quite possible this story is a non-story that was spun out of control or if this is a bell weather story.
I don't like the UAW and I think they have done more to harm the US auto industry than any other entity. However, I also think that it's quite possible to take a small story and make it sound big if the facts are presented in an obfuscating manor.
On the UAW side, we don't know if this is really a plant level complaint or just a few noisy members who filed a complaint and are trying to cause a stir. We don't know much in the way of real details so it's quite possible this story is a non-story that was spun out of control or if this is a bell weather story.
I don't like the UAW and I think they have done more to harm the US auto industry than any other entity. However, I also think that it's quite possible to take a small story and make it sound big if the facts are presented in an obfuscating manor.
10-04-2010, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rockville,Oct 4 2010, 10:11 AM
Not much of an article. It seems more inflammatory than descriptive. First, we don't know what type of repairs we are talking about. Typically those repairs would be called rework and they aren't uncommon on most complex products. On a car an example could be a paint scratch or grease mark someplace. We don't know how often this happens. Are we talking 1 in 10 or 1 in 1000 cars. So if we are talking 1 in 1000 cars it's possible GM is simply sending these cars to an "outside" vendor to clean the carpet stain out or to touch up the paint (outside could be a vendor co-located in the GM plant). In this case the amount of rework would be minor and not indicative of an out of control manufacturing process. It's hard to say if the UAW is right to claim this is a violation of their labor agreement.
On the UAW side, we don't know if this is really a plant level complaint or just a few noisy members who filed a complaint and are trying to cause a stir. We don't know much in the way of real details so it's quite possible this story is a non-story that was spun out of control or if this is a bell weather story.
I don't like the UAW and I think they have done more to harm the US auto industry than any other entity. However, I also think that it's quite possible to take a small story and make it sound big if the facts are presented in an obfuscating manor.
On the UAW side, we don't know if this is really a plant level complaint or just a few noisy members who filed a complaint and are trying to cause a stir. We don't know much in the way of real details so it's quite possible this story is a non-story that was spun out of control or if this is a bell weather story.
I don't like the UAW and I think they have done more to harm the US auto industry than any other entity. However, I also think that it's quite possible to take a small story and make it sound big if the facts are presented in an obfuscating manor.
10-04-2010, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dombey,Oct 4 2010, 01:47 PM
from a incentives standpoint, it seems reasonable to separate the work from the rework...ie don't reward the union for mistakes with additional labor hours...right?
10-04-2010, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dombey,Oct 4 2010, 11:47 AM
from a incentives standpoint, it seems reasonable to separate the work from the rework...ie don't reward the union for mistakes with additional labor hours...right?
10-05-2010, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dombey,Oct 4 2010, 11:47 AM
from a incentives standpoint, it seems reasonable to separate the work from the rework...ie don't reward the union for mistakes with additional labor hours...right?
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10-05-2010, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by F22CAP2,Oct 5 2010, 11:10 AM
The fair solution would be to have the problems fixed by union labor, paid by UAW.
10-05-2010, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by F22CAP2,Oct 5 2010, 09:10 AM
The fair solution would be to have the problems fixed by union labor, paid by UAW.
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That article was written to inflame both sides of the argument. Enough information was left out, and innuendo left in, to allow each side to fill in the blanks with their own perceptions. Whether it was done on purpose is debatable, but the result is the same.