turbo bypass
#1
turbo bypass
i don't drive yet, and i havent' had the pleasure of driving in a friends car that has a turbo, but i was thinkink about the turbo lag that u get when u start accelerating. I was thinking maybe there could be a secondary air intake that went around the turbo and directly to the heads. Computer controlled and probably slowly closing as the turbo kicks in.
I have had no experience with any sort of turbo except for reading up on them. (ps. i'm only 15 so i don't own a car or drive w/o parents)
just wondering wut u guys thought...
I have had no experience with any sort of turbo except for reading up on them. (ps. i'm only 15 so i don't own a car or drive w/o parents)
just wondering wut u guys thought...
#3
Well.. turbo lag can become a bit of a problem in autocross and stuff like that... but there are already ways around it. They are just not very practical and actually, quite noisy.
Rally cars have a system where basically lots of fuel gets dumped and the combustion actually happens OUTSIDE of the combustion chamber... this allows for that energy to transfer into the exhaust housing and keep the turbo spooled while off the throttle..
This is why rally cars backfire so much.
Rally cars have a system where basically lots of fuel gets dumped and the combustion actually happens OUTSIDE of the combustion chamber... this allows for that energy to transfer into the exhaust housing and keep the turbo spooled while off the throttle..
This is why rally cars backfire so much.
#4
Doubt it'll work. You're assuming the HP an engine generates on its own is greater than what it produces when turbocharged but before the turbo spools up. I'd expect that even before the turbo is fully spooled, it's sill producing some forced induction, and therefore yeilds more hp than if the engine were sucking air from the atmosphere directly.
What you really need is computer controlled nitrous to kick in during full throttle when then turbo isn't spooled up, then shut off when they've taken over. A local Ferrari Testarossa modified for this setup supposedly makes in the neighborhood of 1000hp with no lag.
What you really need is computer controlled nitrous to kick in during full throttle when then turbo isn't spooled up, then shut off when they've taken over. A local Ferrari Testarossa modified for this setup supposedly makes in the neighborhood of 1000hp with no lag.
#5
NO2 does help eliminate turbo lag but i just wouldnt get it bc it would be annoying to fill it up. My friend had a boosted EG with B18c1. the turbo was a garrett t25, so there was a very little turbo lag. his turbo would be at full boost at around i think 3k so there was never a problem.
#6
Originally Posted by Aze85,Oct 12 2004, 05:19 PM
NO2 does help eliminate turbo lag but i just wouldnt get it bc it would be annoying to fill it up. My friend had a boosted EG with B18c1. the turbo was a garrett t25, so there was a very little turbo lag. his turbo would be at full boost at around i think 3k so there was never a problem.
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#9
Originally Posted by Elistan,Oct 12 2004, 03:16 PM
Doubt it'll work. You're assuming the HP an engine generates on its own is greater than what it produces when turbocharged but before the turbo spools up. I'd expect that even before the turbo is fully spooled, it's sill producing some forced induction, and therefore yeilds more hp than if the engine were sucking air from the atmosphere directly.
Now this is all dependant on the turbo that's attached to the engine. For instance my stock EVO starts to make positive pressure by 2500 rpms and peak boost hits at 3500 rpms. So as long as I keep my rpms around 3000 or above I don't notice any lag. But if I put a big Garrett 35R on the engine, I wouldn't hit full boost until around 4500-5000 rpms so the lag would be much more apparent. And since most people don't drive around with the engine at 4500 rpms the lag would be present all the time. On top of that, boost response would be worse because the trubo is much larger.
#10
Originally Posted by mingster,Oct 12 2004, 10:06 PM
wouldn't the T25 top out at ~6K RPMs though? that leaves quite a lot of RPMs before redline...(depends on the tune, that is)
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