Trade my NC for an S2000 CR?
#13
Originally Posted by JonBoy,Nov 29 2010, 09:45 AM
You said you've been having track issues with the supercharger. Can you tell us what's happening? Do you know the cause and have a cost to fix the issue?
I don't expect it will be expensive, mostly an issue of diagnosis. Although it ran great @ the track w/ the S/C all summer, I still have my concerns that the aftercooler isn't efficient enough at removing heat in track-type situations.
Still, I'm leaning towards just sticking w/ what I have, and pulling the S/C if it doesn't get sorted out soon. Boost is a hoot, but I had a blast w/ the car even before the S/C was installed.
#14
Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan,Nov 29 2010, 10:27 AM
Get a regular S2000, buy CR seats and buy a CR trunk/wing, suspension
Done
Done
#15
Pretty sure that the consensus (on S2ki) will be : get the CR.
From a reliability standpoint, aftermarket boost and track use often don't seem a great long term mix.
If I was looking for a nice street car: it would be a toss up between the NC and the CR (probably lean toward the NC).
If I was looking for a track car: I would go for the CR.
If I was looking for an autoX car (BS or STR/BSP with mods) I would probably go for the CR.
If I was looking for a race car (NASA H1 or SCCA ITE etc) I would probably go for the CR as a start.
From a reliability standpoint, aftermarket boost and track use often don't seem a great long term mix.
If I was looking for a nice street car: it would be a toss up between the NC and the CR (probably lean toward the NC).
If I was looking for a track car: I would go for the CR.
If I was looking for an autoX car (BS or STR/BSP with mods) I would probably go for the CR.
If I was looking for a race car (NASA H1 or SCCA ITE etc) I would probably go for the CR as a start.
#16
Originally Posted by Chris S,Nov 29 2010, 11:53 AM
Go price out those parts (new or used, if you can find them from legit (not hot) sources), and then get back w/ me as to whether you still think it's a good idea.
The suspension for $900 (used, but you could buy better aftermarket)
The sways are $200 (new)
The wing with bracing from HTG is ~ $700 (new)
etc
Considering you could buy a used 2006 S2000 and add those parts you will come out below the market value of a CR, which seems to be selling at $26-28k on average.
He stated he wanted the convertible top, and wouldn't enjoy the CR top down. It is the best of both worlds.
#17
Seems like a lateral move, at best. From everything I've read on here you put a lot of thought and effort into getting the NC where it is and get a huge amount of enjoyment out of it. I say you stay on that track while you save up for the GT3 you really want. That is a true upgrade, instead of merely being a different version of the same thing.
#18
Chris, the problem is that you are contemplating trading one car with mid-grade track competency for a car with another flavor of mid-grade track competency. The two are too similar for any strong opinions to develop.
Here's a thought, for the few thousand dollars that you would spend on switching to the CR, what performance gain could you achieve by putting that into the NC?
I would venture to guess that for a few thousand dollars into your NC that the difference in the performance envelope between the CR and your NC would be such that the CR seems even less attractive.
Here's a thought, for the few thousand dollars that you would spend on switching to the CR, what performance gain could you achieve by putting that into the NC?
I would venture to guess that for a few thousand dollars into your NC that the difference in the performance envelope between the CR and your NC would be such that the CR seems even less attractive.
#20
Originally Posted by Chris S,Nov 29 2010, 08:51 AM
It doesn't seem to be making much boost at the track...so far, the likely culprit seems to be a sticky bypass valve, maybe a loose belt. Whatever it is, it's directly correlated w/ being constantly on the gas, as it runs perfect on the street.
I don't expect it will be expensive, mostly an issue of diagnosis. Although it ran great @ the track w/ the S/C all summer, I still have my concerns that the aftercooler isn't efficient enough at removing heat in track-type situations.
Still, I'm leaning towards just sticking w/ what I have, and pulling the S/C if it doesn't get sorted out soon. Boost is a hoot, but I had a blast w/ the car even before the S/C was installed.
I don't expect it will be expensive, mostly an issue of diagnosis. Although it ran great @ the track w/ the S/C all summer, I still have my concerns that the aftercooler isn't efficient enough at removing heat in track-type situations.
Still, I'm leaning towards just sticking w/ what I have, and pulling the S/C if it doesn't get sorted out soon. Boost is a hoot, but I had a blast w/ the car even before the S/C was installed.
Do you have a boost gauge to see if you're losing boost or losing power. Two completely different things. The symptoms of a loose belt are completely different. Look for rubber powder on the pulley and try some belt dressing (or a new belt altogether).