Toyota is back? FT-86 Concept
10-07-2009, 06:54 AM
#102
Originally Posted by ZDan,Oct 7 2009, 03:40 AM
Agree that 2-door versions of 4-doors aren't much if any lighter-weight.
But it doesn't appear that this is going to be a 2-door Impreza, but rather it looks like a completely different car with the same (or similar) boxer engine. Toyota has generally been pretty good about keeping the weight down. I'm guessing 3000 lb. MAX, 2600 lb. min, *hopefully* they'll manage to split that at ~2800 lb.
Frankly, I dunno if 3000 is going to do it for me...
But it doesn't appear that this is going to be a 2-door Impreza, but rather it looks like a completely different car with the same (or similar) boxer engine. Toyota has generally been pretty good about keeping the weight down. I'm guessing 3000 lb. MAX, 2600 lb. min, *hopefully* they'll manage to split that at ~2800 lb.
Frankly, I dunno if 3000 is going to do it for me...
Reading the dimensions, it seems highly likely that it should come in below 3000lbs. If toyota plans to keep producing this car, they'll make it as light as possible, the gen coupe is only a couple hundred pounds heavier with a V6 and Nissan has been murmuring about a silvia replacement for years, and if it's heavy why not just get an awd wrx (32xx) or ralliart evo (34xx)?
10-07-2009, 07:43 AM
#105
Originally Posted by hyperpm,Oct 7 2009, 09:13 AM
wow my photochop from years back lol
The lines are very similar to this new Toyota
10-07-2009, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris S,Oct 6 2009, 02:23 PM
Maybe I misssed something, but what I read into it (at a quick glance) is that they're just using Subie engines, not producing w/ Subie as was orignally planned. It just wouldn't be a Subie w/ rwd!
The boxer engine produces a lower cg for better handling/lower hoodline, and produces a unique, cool sound.
I love it!
The boxer engine produces a lower cg for better handling/lower hoodline, and produces a unique, cool sound.
I love it!
I just don't get that part.Overall, I like the concept, but I think it's going to be a pretty good sized disappointment. The base model will weigh at least 3200lbs and with 200 HP...that is very unexciting. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
edit: i just read on this thread that toyota and subaru are both producing the car and will be releasing a version each like the matrix and vibe. I guess the subie one will only be AWD. I can't see them ever making a RWD car.
10-07-2009, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01,Oct 7 2009, 11:01 AM
Overall, I like the concept, but I think it's going to be a pretty good sized disappointment. The base model will weigh at least 3200lbs and with 200 HP...that is very unexciting. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
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10-07-2009, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by aklucsarits,Oct 7 2009, 08:13 AM
What makes you think this car would weigh anywhere near 3200lbs? This concept is smaller dimensionally than the last gen Toyota Celica, which only weighed 2500lbs. And 2500lbs was the target weight previously thrown around by Toyota sources.
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10-07-2009, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by aklucsarits,Oct 7 2009, 08:13 AM
What makes you think this car would weigh anywhere near 3200lbs? This concept is smaller dimensionally than the last gen Toyota Celica, which only weighed 2500lbs. And 2500lbs was the target weight previously thrown around by Toyota sources.
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