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Ten Legendary Cars That Prove BMW Peaked in the 1990s

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Old 10-12-2015, 05:35 AM
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Default Ten Legendary Cars That Prove BMW Peaked in the 1990s

Sounds about right to me, as there hasn't been this level of variety from BMW in a while, unless you count SUVs.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...-in-the-1990s/
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Those cars were all awesome in their time and fun to drive, very analog and direct. The modern cars are better though, it's silly to say BMW peaked in the 90's. The new cars are getting faster, more luxurious, comfortable from generation to generation. I like driving my E46 since it feels like a smaller lighter car compared to the E9x but I still bought a F80 as it's just a nicer package all around.
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BMW and the rest of the German cars outside a few Porsche models are not the "keepsake" cars they use to be.

All the cars on that list which I have driven (most of them), all feel really heavy and antiquated compared to their current counterparts.

The notion of buying a Mercedes etc and expecting it to be in service 20 years is of a bye gone era. BMW is hardly the driver's car it was. They want their cars to drive the driver now. Auto manufacturers keep innovating or their products become stale. Not many marques can offer a similar experience as they did 10-15 years go and still be relevant. Those marques are niche players in limited market.
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I think the only exception is the E46 M3...
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
BMW and the rest of the German cars outside a few Porsche models are not the "keepsake" cars they use to be.

All the cars on that list which I have driven (most of them), all feel really heavy and antiquated compared to their current counterparts.

The notion of buying a Mercedes etc and expecting it to be in service 20 years is of a bye gone era. BMW is hardly the driver's car it was. They want their cars to drive the driver now. Auto manufacturers keep innovating or their products become stale. Not many marques can offer a similar experience as they did 10-15 years go and still be relevant. Those marques are niche players in limited market.
Generalities that are untrue. F80 M3 is every bit as engaging on track. I've owned/driven E36, E46, E92 and F80.
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Those cars were all awesome in their time and fun to drive, very analog and direct. The modern cars are better though, it's silly to say BMW peaked in the 90's. The new cars are getting faster, more luxurious, comfortable from generation to generation. I like driving my E46 since it feels like a smaller lighter car compared to the E9x but I still bought a F80 as it's just a nicer package all around.
Used to be if you wanted more luxurious and comfortable then you'd pick a Mercedes. If you wanted "the Ultimate Driving Machine" you bought a BMW. Now you're really just choosing between two Mercedes. BMW has sacrificed driver feel and involvement in the quest to build great "numbers" cars.
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The Z1 is not on that list.
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
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BMW and the rest of the German cars outside a few Porsche models are not the "keepsake" cars they use to be.

All the cars on that list which I have driven (most of them), all feel really heavy and antiquated compared to their current counterparts.

The notion of buying a Mercedes etc and expecting it to be in service 20 years is of a bye gone era. BMW is hardly the driver's car it was. They want their cars to drive the driver now. Auto manufacturers keep innovating or their products become stale. Not many marques can offer a similar experience as they did 10-15 years go and still be relevant. Those marques are niche players in limited market.
Generalities that are untrue. F80 M3 is every bit as engaging on track. I've owned/driven E36, E46, E92 and F80.
When is the F80 a 90's car and where did I say it is not engaging on the track? The only thing close is the F80 is not a car to own 20+ years. How will the F80 look in 20+ years and will it still be viable to maintain vs owning something newer?
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Originally Posted by tiger1964
The Z1 is not on that list.
For good reason I'd say.
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The Z3M coupe is sickkkk. My favorite BMW.... Saw one on autotrader for $75k!!


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