Soft top aero article
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I thought some of you might find this article interesting. Even though its talking about the context of a high powered FWD car, it might have some useful information.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/blogs/gixx...nd-out-why.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/blogs/gixx...nd-out-why.html
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Good article. I think this kind of thing is fascinating. But then I'm kind of a geek.
The designer of the Piper Cub used the luff of fabric in the body on one of his first planes to redesign the body using a rigid material to reduce drag by designing the rigid material to the form of the fabric *at speed.* The fabric wanted to fill the low pressure area, and the energy it took to suck the fabric out drew from the energy driving the plane forward. The rigid material filled that space, and the energy saved went to propulsion. His new design looked the same, used the same powerplant, but was measurably faster, despite replacing fabric with a rigid material.
It's an insight that isn't common.
They should take off that joke of a rear "wing." They'd see a definite improvement in lap times if they replaced it with a stock-style spoiler.
The designer of the Piper Cub used the luff of fabric in the body on one of his first planes to redesign the body using a rigid material to reduce drag by designing the rigid material to the form of the fabric *at speed.* The fabric wanted to fill the low pressure area, and the energy it took to suck the fabric out drew from the energy driving the plane forward. The rigid material filled that space, and the energy saved went to propulsion. His new design looked the same, used the same powerplant, but was measurably faster, despite replacing fabric with a rigid material.
It's an insight that isn't common.
They should take off that joke of a rear "wing." They'd see a definite improvement in lap times if they replaced it with a stock-style spoiler.
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Originally Posted by gixxer_drew,Feb 16 2010, 02:27 AM
FYI, I am the writer of the article. A good example of what your talking about is the simple teardrop it deforms into the most efficient aerodynamic shape as it falls through the air forms and reforms to optimum shape at all velocities. Studying water shape deformation is extremely valuable in my opinion.
I assumed since the wing was featured in the model it was factored into the analysis. It seemed like a reasonable assumption, as the cars did not have that kind of wing from the factory.
Good job, by the way. I appreciate you sharing it.
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yah no problem it was a totally fair assumption. The CFD model was a factory car so I wanted to demo the flow streamline to a rear wing that was high up. That image is a video game model
Thanks for the feedback as well!
Thanks for the feedback as well!
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Originally Posted by gixxer_drew,Feb 16 2010, 02:27 AM
FYI, I am the writer of the article. A good example of what your talking about is the simple teardrop it deforms into the most efficient aerodynamic shape as it falls through the air forms and reforms to optimum shape at all velocities. Studying water shape deformation is extremely valuable in my opinion.
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Zdan, thank you for the correction on bad information. I'm sure your correct I just assumed that those shapes I was studying were formed by falling water but that post makes 100% sense.
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Originally Posted by NuncoStr8,Feb 16 2010, 12:27 AM
They should take off that joke of a rear "wing." They'd see a definite improvement in lap times if they replaced it with a stock-style spoiler.