So this ruffled the feathers of few ISF owners...
04-10-2014, 11:45 AM
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http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx
04-10-2014, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullwings' timestamp='1397089094' post='23105658
it's nothing for them to get all butt hurt about... it's faster than the E9x M3 around Streets of Willow Springs.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPy0T3Fojt0[/media]
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=968806
The car is a performance bargain. That said - FI... i doubt it'll hold up to 5x25min lapping sessions for weekend warriors - not without dumping a bunch into supporting mods anyway.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPy0T3Fojt0[/media]
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=968806
The car is a performance bargain. That said - FI... i doubt it'll hold up to 5x25min lapping sessions for weekend warriors - not without dumping a bunch into supporting mods anyway.
Different drivers, different weather conditions, and different tires...
The S2000 is on that list doing 1:35.xxx with Mike Kang as a driver - that must have been a long time ago running in July at 2:00pm in the afternoon.
For reference, I ran a 1:31.xxx with my stock S2K two years ago only change was 225/255 RE-11s (versus the 215/255 RE070 or 215/245 RE050 that comes stock on our cars).
It should also be noted that Kang is a far more competent driver than myself (obviously).
In any case, 1:26 is a fast lap time no matter what the conditions and Street tires used.
04-10-2014, 05:50 PM
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I used to love BMW but lately their cars are getting very un-focused in their target audience. But then again what do I know since last I heard BMW is making big money!
The only car that is exciting right now is their upcoming August release of the i8, had a chance to drive the i3 and if that is any indication, the i8 will be an amazing machine, too bad it's so expensive.
The only car that is exciting right now is their upcoming August release of the i8, had a chance to drive the i3 and if that is any indication, the i8 will be an amazing machine, too bad it's so expensive.
I took a look at the i3 when the little orange demo fleet stopped by my BMW dealership. Declined a test drive since I have zero interest in buying one, but definitely a neat "little" car, it'll be interesting to see how the cfrp/carbon intensive construction holds up. Hopefully in a few years, BMW will have the r&d/tooling costs from the i3/i8 balanced out and they'll offer something like the i8 in the Cayman S price range. Probably not going to happen knowing BMW though
Still crazy to me that the 235i is just about the smallest/lightest car BMW makes, and it's still 3500lbs! Not surprising that it could beat the ISF at any altitude, the Lexus is much more compromised as a sports car.
04-10-2014, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by s4play' timestamp='1397145771' post='23106511
I used to love BMW but lately their cars are getting very un-focused in their target audience. But then again what do I know since last I heard BMW is making big money!
The only car that is exciting right now is their upcoming August release of the i8, had a chance to drive the i3 and if that is any indication, the i8 will be an amazing machine, too bad it's so expensive.
The only car that is exciting right now is their upcoming August release of the i8, had a chance to drive the i3 and if that is any indication, the i8 will be an amazing machine, too bad it's so expensive.
I took a look at the i3 when the little orange demo fleet stopped by my BMW dealership. Declined a test drive since I have zero interest in buying one, but definitely a neat "little" car, it'll be interesting to see how the cfrp/carbon intensive construction holds up. Hopefully in a few years, BMW will have the r&d/tooling costs from the i3/i8 balanced out and they'll offer something like the i8 in the Cayman S price range. Probably not going to happen knowing BMW though
Still crazy to me that the 235i is just about the smallest/lightest car BMW makes, and it's still 3500lbs! Not surprising that it could beat the ISF at any altitude, the Lexus is much more compromised as a sports car.
04-10-2014, 08:19 PM
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3300 lbs, BMW says (they originally said with 90% fuel load).
I saw them in person today. Great looking cars (M3 and M4). My wife preferred the M3 but I liked the M4.
I saw them in person today. Great looking cars (M3 and M4). My wife preferred the M3 but I liked the M4.
04-11-2014, 05:09 AM
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When I moved from 500 ft to 5000 ft elevation, I noticed a distinct drop in power in my S2000, while there was no drop in power in my 328i - just a bit more turbo lag. Made me start contemplating how nice a quick-spooling light-pressure turbo on the S2000 would be. Even just 280 crank hp would be great.
04-11-2014, 05:47 AM
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When I moved from 500 ft to 5000 ft elevation, I noticed a distinct drop in power in my S2000, while there was no drop in power in my 328i - just a bit more turbo lag. Made me start contemplating how nice a quick-spooling light-pressure turbo on the S2000 would be. Even just 280 crank hp would be great.
There was a drop in power, but the additional lag likely helped it feel faster. The turbo is less efficient all around, so with lag comes a turbo working harder to achieve the same boost it had at lower altitudes. Many OEM cars lower boost at higher altitudes to keep it from overworking itself.
Also, when comparing NA to boost... Superchargers see the same loss as NA.
04-11-2014, 05:53 AM
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There is always a faster car than what you drive. BIG DEAL. The last time my feathers got the least bit ruffled about a car being faster than mine was when I had my 95' 240SX... and I was a TEENAGER. If you love your car and consider it fun to drive, then who cares! Guys need some other hobbies or something.
04-11-2014, 02:02 PM
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The threads about M235i vs c7 vette will be fun
C7 manual launching video - GM Engineers were there - Cold day on concrete
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJl0SW6zcZ8[/media]
If the M235i can launch control it's way to 4.8-5.0 seconds 0-60, we got a ball game of internet ball swinging to come
C7 manual launching video - GM Engineers were there - Cold day on concrete
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJl0SW6zcZ8[/media]
If the M235i can launch control it's way to 4.8-5.0 seconds 0-60, we got a ball game of internet ball swinging to come
04-11-2014, 02:22 PM
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The threads about M235i vs c7 vette will be fun
C7 manual launching video - GM Engineers were there - Cold day on concrete
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJl0SW6zcZ8[/media]
If the M235i can launch control it's way to 4.8-5.0 seconds 0-60, we got a ball game of internet ball swinging to come
C7 manual launching video - GM Engineers were there - Cold day on concrete
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJl0SW6zcZ8[/media]
If the M235i can launch control it's way to 4.8-5.0 seconds 0-60, we got a ball game of internet ball swinging to come
But seriously, TFL gets a
from me. Their reviews have very little substance and I am not sure why they keep getting the privilege of testing cars.