Should I switch from 06 S2k to '16 STI?
05-14-2016, 11:43 AM
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But yeah, if I had the chance at a do-over, it'd be an Evo 9 or a GTR.
As to the guy who said that "if I spent 40k It BETTER not rattle", man I'd hate to hear you owning a GTR. You'd be pissed. Fact of the matter is, all very high powered cars will rattle unless you spend the time to track down what's rattling. It doesn't matter what the base car costs. Add in a set of stiffer mounts, some poly bushings, and oh boy does it get noisy fast.
05-14-2016, 11:57 AM
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Real quick with that MLA format, annotated bibliography, and statistical analysis response
05-14-2016, 02:06 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCDyWNtDV_g
05-14-2016, 06:34 PM
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Add a turbo/sc to the s2000 and have the best of both worlds, with an engine that isn't a ticking time bomb.
05-14-2016, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EsA2000' timestamp='1463259692' post='23966716
Hands down, the STi has more power. I guess I just meant that it's quite satisfying to drive in a car that howls to 9k, whether it's slow or not. All in the experience, you see 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCDyWNtDV_g
05-18-2016, 06:38 AM
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Few things,
As someone who owns a STI and has a shop that builds extremely high powered STIs, don't do it. You'll have to do a complete build if you want any semblance of power (closed deck, rods, pistons, cams, head port/polish, half inch headstuds, arp case bolts, manifolds) and even then your reliability is still up in question if you beat on it. The difference between a 550hp STI and a 800hp STI is what turbo the owner decide to go with. Don't listen to the IAG/Outfront closed deck fanboys, they will blow up too in time from some various component failure. The VE of the EJ means that any turbo that you'd decide to slap on there will make significantly less power then on any other engine, and that is even with a full litany of breathing mods. A turbo that would make 750hp on a s2000 easily (Precision 6266) will be out of breath in the 600 range on an EJ.
If you think just because you'll "leave it alone stock" that it will be fine and reliable, you are mistaken. There are still instances of ringland failures and spun bearings on facory setups without even so much as an accessport tune. Next, the 2017 STI is supposed to be getting a FA based block, but it's said that it will be DI only just like the last few years of BRZ/86's which make adding power adders difficult.
As of right now there is still no company that offers aftermarket DI injectors so unless you decide to go standalone and add port injectors, you're SOL.
Next, the community sucks. So many people have absolutely no idea what they're doing with the platform and there are a lot of horror stories (I guess I could say the same about some FI S2000s, but the general knowledge here is higher). The community is cheap and won't pay money for used parts, which is good if you want to buy used parts. You can get a lot of parts easily because many people will part out their cars because it blew up and they're tired of it.
The only positive thing I can say is that the transmissions are stronger than the S2000's, and the rest of the drivetrain is OK but the powerplant is junk. Evo's are the exact opposite, but it's not as expensive to make the drivetrain not fall apart.
If your S2000 is slow, add boost, and don't do a half ass cheap garbage turbo kit. Do something with vband inlet and outlets so you don't have to mickey mouse stuff with gaskets and the like. Use a quality ECU quality injectors quality lines and you'll be golden on the stock block running E85.
As someone who owns a STI and has a shop that builds extremely high powered STIs, don't do it. You'll have to do a complete build if you want any semblance of power (closed deck, rods, pistons, cams, head port/polish, half inch headstuds, arp case bolts, manifolds) and even then your reliability is still up in question if you beat on it. The difference between a 550hp STI and a 800hp STI is what turbo the owner decide to go with. Don't listen to the IAG/Outfront closed deck fanboys, they will blow up too in time from some various component failure. The VE of the EJ means that any turbo that you'd decide to slap on there will make significantly less power then on any other engine, and that is even with a full litany of breathing mods. A turbo that would make 750hp on a s2000 easily (Precision 6266) will be out of breath in the 600 range on an EJ.
If you think just because you'll "leave it alone stock" that it will be fine and reliable, you are mistaken. There are still instances of ringland failures and spun bearings on facory setups without even so much as an accessport tune. Next, the 2017 STI is supposed to be getting a FA based block, but it's said that it will be DI only just like the last few years of BRZ/86's which make adding power adders difficult.
As of right now there is still no company that offers aftermarket DI injectors so unless you decide to go standalone and add port injectors, you're SOL.
Next, the community sucks. So many people have absolutely no idea what they're doing with the platform and there are a lot of horror stories (I guess I could say the same about some FI S2000s, but the general knowledge here is higher). The community is cheap and won't pay money for used parts, which is good if you want to buy used parts. You can get a lot of parts easily because many people will part out their cars because it blew up and they're tired of it.
The only positive thing I can say is that the transmissions are stronger than the S2000's, and the rest of the drivetrain is OK but the powerplant is junk. Evo's are the exact opposite, but it's not as expensive to make the drivetrain not fall apart.
If your S2000 is slow, add boost, and don't do a half ass cheap garbage turbo kit. Do something with vband inlet and outlets so you don't have to mickey mouse stuff with gaskets and the like. Use a quality ECU quality injectors quality lines and you'll be golden on the stock block running E85.
05-18-2016, 07:54 AM
#100
Add a turbo/sc to the s2000 and have the best of both worlds, with an engine that isn't a ticking time bomb.
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No, both graphs are modified vehicles. That said, you can do over 400wtq with the stock turbo.