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Old 09-09-2015, 07:48 PM
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Be a cold day in hell before I would ever give up my s2k, one of the last pure sports cars made at any price tag. Everything is technology now. f@#k if a RS is faster then my S2k on a road course, maybe a stock s2k, but who cares. A Ford Focus!? You got to be shitting me
Old 09-10-2015, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 8.5kallday
If youre s2k is beat up and on its last legs than sure but if not then no.
An s2k can and will go up in value and will be a collectible one day while a focus will simply depreciate and just be hmm a ford focus..
I would get the focus and s2k if financially possible
That is absurd, no car with over 100,000 copies made will be a collectible, only S2000 fanboi's think that way. The Focus RS will be an exclusive/limited production car. Both cars started at mid 30's, I bet in 20 years the RS will be worth more than a S2000.
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Originally Posted by Gotpepsi
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower' timestamp='1441805087' post='23741647
I think it's funny that the number of doors matters. This thing is a freaking rocket disguised as a 5 door family hatchback. It accelerates, stops, handles and brakes better than a S2000, is more exclusive and can haul way more people/stuff and probably gets the same or better MPG. Unless you absolutely have to have a convertible roadster the RS is a no brainer. I don't know why some people just can't look at the facts objectively and feel like they have to hang on to a car with 15+ year old technology like it's God's chariot.

If your budget is 15K, the S2000 is an awesome option but if you have 35-40K there are so many other great cars.
There are lots of people on the forums that prefer the s2000 over 35-40k cars. Its more about purity. That why people like classics. I'm not saying that the s2000 is a classic, but why would someone buy a 1960's mustang instead of a modern mustang. The modern mustang has more power, comforts, and economics. See, its not about the money! It's about the connection to the vehicle; the feeling of oneness, .
S2000 went out of production barely 5 years ago. It's not exactly a classic like an unmolested FD RX7, NSX or 3rd gen Supra Turbo. Elise is 30-40K and a purer drivers car so is a 987 Cayman S. You'd have to be pretty nuts to own a S2000 over either of those cars if you want connection to the car and a fun drive from a subject standpoint not to mention objectively both those cars have better metrics as well.

Anyone that says S2000 is the best and I won't try anything else is either too closed minded or doesn't have the money. There are too many awesome cars out there to try, live a little and don't be such a brand/badge/model whore. I wouldn't mind having a Ford hatchback and a GT3 in the same garage, who cares if it's a good car it's a good car.
Old 09-10-2015, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Originally Posted by Gotpepsi' timestamp='1441849396' post='23742506
[quote name='CosmosMpower' timestamp='1441805087' post='23741647']
I think it's funny that the number of doors matters. This thing is a freaking rocket disguised as a 5 door family hatchback. It accelerates, stops, handles and brakes better than a S2000, is more exclusive and can haul way more people/stuff and probably gets the same or better MPG. Unless you absolutely have to have a convertible roadster the RS is a no brainer. I don't know why some people just can't look at the facts objectively and feel like they have to hang on to a car with 15+ year old technology like it's God's chariot.

If your budget is 15K, the S2000 is an awesome option but if you have 35-40K there are so many other great cars.
There are lots of people on the forums that prefer the s2000 over 35-40k cars. Its more about purity. That why people like classics. I'm not saying that the s2000 is a classic, but why would someone buy a 1960's mustang instead of a modern mustang. The modern mustang has more power, comforts, and economics. See, its not about the money! It's about the connection to the vehicle; the feeling of oneness, .
S2000 went out of production barely 5 years ago. It's not exactly a classic like an unmolested FD RX7, NSX or 3rd gen Supra Turbo. Elise is 30-40K and a purer drivers car so is a 987 Cayman S. You'd have to be pretty nuts to own a S2000 over either of those cars if you want connection to the car and a fun drive from a subject standpoint not to mention objectively both those cars have better metrics as well.

Anyone that says S2000 is the best and I won't try anything else is either too closed minded or doesn't have the money. There are too many awesome cars out there to try, live a little and don't be such a brand/badge/model whore. I wouldn't mind having a Ford hatchback and a GT3 in the same garage, who cares if it's a good car it's a good car.
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while I always respect your opinion i have to disagree. I've tried plenty of cars and i wouldn't trade my S2000 for a RS. Would i trade it for a lotus/porsche HELL YES! lol
The s2000 was outperformed by the STI, Evo, and Golf R too. Doesn't mean their replacements. IMO The RS is a great DD. But it doesn't replace the s2000. The Elige/Cayman definitely does tho.

I keep the s2000 bc i can't always deal with the exige in NYC. The S2000 is much more livable for good weather commuter.
Old 09-10-2015, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Originally Posted by 8.5kallday' timestamp='1441854404' post='23742561
If youre s2k is beat up and on its last legs than sure but if not then no.
An s2k can and will go up in value and will be a collectible one day while a focus will simply depreciate and just be hmm a ford focus..
I would get the focus and s2k if financially possible
That is absurd, no car with over 100,000 copies made will be a collectible, only S2000 fanboi's think that way. The Focus RS will be an exclusive/limited production car. Both cars started at mid 30's, I bet in 20 years the RS will be worth more than a S2000.
Well, this is apples to oranges. Compare a CR to an RS, or a Focus to an S2000, but don't mix.
Old 09-10-2015, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
It accelerates, stops, handles and brakes better than a S2000, is more exclusive and can haul way more people/stuff and probably gets the same or better MPG. Unless you absolutely have to have a convertible roadster the RS is a no brainer. I don't know why some people just can't look at the facts objectively and feel like they have to hang on to a car with 15+ year old technology like it's God's chariot.
Please, we all know God's Chariot is a Nissan Maxima.

Besides that, the S2000 isn't about objectivity. Never was. Never will be.
The numbers isn't what the S2000 is about. It seems like you don't understand that simple concept, which is why you bash the car... on a forum dedicated to the car. Troll much?

Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
That is absurd, no car with over 100,000 copies made will be a collectible
1969 Mustang - nearly 300K made; collectible
1969 Camaro - nearly 250K made; collectible
Classic beetle - endless numbers made; collectible stateside
Classic Mini Cooper - millions made; collectible stateside

Point is, production numbers doesn't denote whether it will or won't be a collectible.
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Originally Posted by Driven
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower' timestamp='1441891322' post='23742837
That is absurd, no car with over 100,000 copies made will be a collectible
1969 Mustang - nearly 300K made; collectible
1969 Camaro - nearly 250K made; collectible
Classic beetle - endless numbers made; collectible stateside
Classic Mini Cooper - millions made; collectible stateside

Point is, production numbers doesn't denote whether it will or won't be a collectible.
Just about any car that is 40+ years old is collectible.
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CosmosMpower - you on the right forums?

IMO, the S2000 is hard to beat for pure driving fun. I've been in or driven many sports cars, including newer, technology-filled ones, and none of them were better than the S2000 (again, talking driving fun here).

As far as comparing the new Focus RS to the S2000, it's apples and oranges. What do you need in a vehicle? The decision should be easy.

And "classic" can be defined in several ways. I'd say in 30-40 years, yeah, S2000s will generally be considered classics.
Old 09-10-2015, 10:21 AM
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i love the idea of the RS that is coming, I sure hope it is as promised. I am considering one, or the ST, which I like as well.
I would not mention the S2000 and the RS as alternatives, they are different cars/markets, 345 hp vs 240, etc...i would ;think of the selling of your S2000 and the purchase of the Rs as separate considerations if you can.
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S2000 will be classic. no doubt.

N/A screaming i4 engine,
Manual Tranny,
Mid front engine setup,
teenagers totalling these left and right.

yes, this car will be classic. might not perform as well as the RS or a lot of today's cars but this car is hell of a driver's car and neck breaker.


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