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Old 09-30-2015, 06:12 AM
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Pretty sure each state will not allow renewal of vehicle registration without proof of modification to meet emissions.
Do we have any examples/case law to back that up? That seems like quite the burden to put on the state/consumers considering they didn't do anything wrong...

Some states/counties don't even do emissions testing, so why would they care?
I would imagine they'll put a time limit on it, probably two years or so, in order to allow consumers and the dealerships enough time to sort it all out. It's not like they'll put an immediate "can't drive" rule into effect and leave people hanging high and dry.

I'll be happy to be proven wrong, though.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT
Originally Posted by Marioshi' timestamp='1443565290' post='23761454
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1443556490' post='23761330']
Pretty sure each state will not allow renewal of vehicle registration without proof of modification to meet emissions.
Do we have any examples/case law to back that up? That seems like quite the burden to put on the state/consumers considering they didn't do anything wrong...

Some states/counties don't even do emissions testing, so why would they care?
Germany stated it would ban 2.8 million VW diesels unless VW presented a plan to fix, and I'd bet the same thing would happen in US states. It looks like VW will have to do a few things including software update, something like urea injection system, plus buybacks and fines.
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Disagree. Its all in the testing. States will not change the way they test for emissions. As long as the vehicle can pass during standard emissions testing, no state is going to state that the vehicle is not allowed on the road (except maybe California which is a stupid state anyway).
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What are you referring to exactly? Because I guarantee most (if not all) states have a problem with this current situation.
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Originally Posted by Anrosphynx
Originally Posted by Saki GT' timestamp='1443622165' post='23762018
[quote name='Marioshi' timestamp='1443565290' post='23761454']
[quote name='JonBoy' timestamp='1443556490' post='23761330']
Pretty sure each state will not allow renewal of vehicle registration without proof of modification to meet emissions.
Do we have any examples/case law to back that up? That seems like quite the burden to put on the state/consumers considering they didn't do anything wrong...

Some states/counties don't even do emissions testing, so why would they care?
Germany stated it would ban 2.8 million VW diesels unless VW presented a plan to fix, and I'd bet the same thing would happen in US states. It looks like VW will have to do a few things including software update, something like urea injection system, plus buybacks and fines.
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Disagree. Its all in the testing. States will not change the way they test for emissions. As long as the vehicle can pass during standard emissions testing, no state is going to state that the vehicle is not allowed on the road (except maybe California which is a stupid state anyway).
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States are a pretty moot point right now since the cars dont meet federal standards.
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The EPA tells the states what to do, so when EPA comes up with new rules for testing diesels, the states will follow.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT
The EPA tells the states what to do, so when EPA comes up with new rules for testing diesels, the states will follow.
Very true. I hadn't considered that. Which means smog emissions will end up changing and it will probably get that much more strenuous.
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