Saturn puts out 1/4 mile estimate for Sky Redline
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[QUOTE=steven975,Aug 24 2006, 07:06 PM] I thought the GXP is boosted to, what, 18PSI?
Do you think a little turbo like that can even put out the 25PSI you would almost certainly need to pick up 75HP?
Do you think a little turbo like that can even put out the 25PSI you would almost certainly need to pick up 75HP?
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From what I recall reading in I think HotRod they went up to 350hp on stock Ecotec internals. I don't recall which displacement they used and of course that is not a trivial bit of information.
I also recall reading that GM applied a torque limit to the GXP motor. The motor was designed to limit not to a particular boost pressure but to a torque value. I suspect some part of the driveline would become torque limited. Perhaps the gearbox? I assume this is the same basic box (with some changed ratios) that the H3 and Colorado use. However, I don't think either of them has as much torque. Just speculation.
I also recall reading that GM applied a torque limit to the GXP motor. The motor was designed to limit not to a particular boost pressure but to a torque value. I suspect some part of the driveline would become torque limited. Perhaps the gearbox? I assume this is the same basic box (with some changed ratios) that the H3 and Colorado use. However, I don't think either of them has as much torque. Just speculation.
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the turbo is pushing 20psi to get 260bhp - the same thing goes for the evo, it uses a very high psi stock so really once the bolt ons (TBE, intake, chip, FMIC) are done, the only bottleneck is the turbo. i believe this car should see 300whp with the mods i listed minus the turbo. with 300whp and weighing about 100lbs less, this will be a nice STi/Evo killer. upgrade the turbo and this car could possibly see low 12s (like bolt-on turbo Evos/STi's).
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my road and track came in today and they tested the GXP against the 350Z vert and Z4 3.0si.
They crowned solstice champ, but said they would not have if it didn't look so good as it had a lot of flaws. By the way, they got 5.5 to 60 and 14.1 @ 98.7. So, I guess all the speculation that this car would stomp a mudhole in the S2000 was just that. The mag tests for the S are almost all 0.2sec and 2mph better. Also, the GXP is also most likely a MUCH easier car to get top times out of, where as the S needs some finesse. I would imagine that is going to mean pretty consistent results from the other rags.
test weight was also over 3000 pounds, so the HP/lb ratio for the S2000 is better.
They crowned solstice champ, but said they would not have if it didn't look so good as it had a lot of flaws. By the way, they got 5.5 to 60 and 14.1 @ 98.7. So, I guess all the speculation that this car would stomp a mudhole in the S2000 was just that. The mag tests for the S are almost all 0.2sec and 2mph better. Also, the GXP is also most likely a MUCH easier car to get top times out of, where as the S needs some finesse. I would imagine that is going to mean pretty consistent results from the other rags.
test weight was also over 3000 pounds, so the HP/lb ratio for the S2000 is better.
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Originally Posted by steven975,Aug 25 2006, 08:11 PM
my road and track came in today and they tested the GXP against the 350Z vert and Z4 3.0si.
They crowned solstice champ, but said they would not have if it didn't look so good as it had a lot of flaws. By the way, they got 5.5 to 60 and 14.1 @ 98.7. So, I guess all the speculation that this car would stomp a mudhole in the S2000 was just that. The mag tests for the S are almost all 0.2sec and 2mph better. Also, the GXP is also most likely a MUCH easier car to get top times out of, where as the S needs some finesse. I would imagine that is going to mean pretty consistent results from the other rags.
test weight was also over 3000 pounds, so the HP/lb ratio for the S2000 is better.
They crowned solstice champ, but said they would not have if it didn't look so good as it had a lot of flaws. By the way, they got 5.5 to 60 and 14.1 @ 98.7. So, I guess all the speculation that this car would stomp a mudhole in the S2000 was just that. The mag tests for the S are almost all 0.2sec and 2mph better. Also, the GXP is also most likely a MUCH easier car to get top times out of, where as the S needs some finesse. I would imagine that is going to mean pretty consistent results from the other rags.
test weight was also over 3000 pounds, so the HP/lb ratio for the S2000 is better.
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Originally Posted by 03exlcoupe,Aug 26 2006, 04:11 AM
don't be surprised if you see other mags record much faster times in 1/4mile, road and track could not even run a new Z06 in the 11's @120+.
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Originally Posted by waltk88,Aug 26 2006, 06:41 AM
Weird thing is that R&T has the best numbers for the Ferrari F430 (11.9 @123.3). Their numbers for the S2000 are also decent - 13.9 @100.2. It shouldn't be said that R&T is consistently slow.
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Here's C/D's data points:
Whole review is here: http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=21554
Whole review is here: http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=21554
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Originally Posted by YBS1,Aug 26 2006, 07:04 AM
They got those numbers from the F430 because their test example was using comp-r tires and if I recall correctly it was a european model with launch control.