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Old 07-23-2008 | 09:05 AM
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Default Road&Track Free-for-all track shootout w/GTR

GT-R held it's own. The new Lambo LP560-4 is a beast.


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Old 07-23-2008 | 09:23 AM
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God, the GTR really is a beast. That is my absolute dream car right now.
Old 07-23-2008 | 09:31 AM
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Dodge Viper ACR FTMFW.

Honestly, all this talk about the z06 / GTR being bang for the bucks yet no one has actually mentioned the ACR. Under 100k and fast as crap!

Dream car for sure!
Old 07-23-2008 | 09:36 AM
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Based on that article it really sounds like GM needs t spend more time on the tire-damper-spring rate* part of the Z06.

*Before anyone says it, no the leaf springs are not the problem. The wrong spring rate might be but not the actual use of a leaf spring.
Old 07-23-2008 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rockville,Jul 23 2008, 09:36 AM
Based on that article it really sounds like GM needs t spend more time on the tire-damper-spring rate* part of the Z06.

*Before anyone says it, no the leaf springs are not the problem. The wrong spring rate might be but not the actual use of a leaf spring.
Agreed, GM needs to spend the time to dial their cars in better before they send them out. The components are great, but the execution of fine tuning needs some work. Technically the four corner double wishbone transverse leaf spring setup is superior to the strut with steel coil setup you find on Porsches, but the Porsche makes the most of what it has.

Case in point? GM had three different shock damper settings on the C5 Z06 throughout it's four year cycle. The only year that didn't see a damper adjustment was the 2002-2003 year. 2004 Nurburgring tuned shocks improve the Z06's handling quite a bit. Nissan spent about 7 years at Nurburgring (since 2001) fine honing the GT-R, along with various race tracks around the world (Laguna Seca, Sears Point, Goodwood festival of speed). By comparison GM spent just 2 weeks at the Ring with the Z06 for final adjustments.
Old 07-23-2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Jul 23 2008, 05:31 PM
Dodge Viper ACR FTMFW.

Honestly, all this talk about the z06 / GTR being bang for the bucks yet no one has actually mentioned the ACR. Under 100k and fast as crap!

Dream car for sure!
The ACR is an awesome track car especially when it comes with it's own free engineer.

Not too sure about it's everyday usability.
Old 07-23-2008 | 10:42 AM
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Damn - I'm partial to the R8 but the Z06 is truly dead. The GT-R monstered even the 911 GT2.

What a car.
Old 07-23-2008 | 10:48 AM
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Great review! thanks!
Old 07-23-2008 | 11:40 AM
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ACR is really a monster, but I wouldn't be able to drive it everyday. GTR however is a different story. But one thing that surprised me was the not so good performance of GT2. If Porsche's top of the line race version can't beat standard GTR, what would it do when the V-Spec comes out?
Old 07-23-2008 | 11:50 AM
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I too am surprised about the gt2.

it seems the gt3 doesnt have enough power and the gt2 doesnt have enough everything else.


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