Hertz Donut

I'm also "old" and as I said it's growing on me. The main advantage of driving it is I wouldn't have to look at it. If the "vents" were actually functional I'd feel a lot better about the design. After all, I'd happily own this ugly old thing because all the aero is functional:

(Also because it's worth over $200K these days...)

TommyDeVito

You add power and a tune to this thing it torque steers, and wheelspin everywhere because it's wrong wheel drive.

starchland

can anything be done about torque steer?

JonBoy

They already "took care" of torque steer. I haven't driven one but from what I've seen and read, the car has virtually no torque steer, stock. Will more power exacerbate any torque steer? Yes. Will it be unmanageable? I doubt it. Adding 50% more power means adding 50% more torque, which would multiple the torque steer by 50%. 50% more of "very little" is still "not that much" (those are very technical terms ).

https://www.wired.com/story/honda-ci...-torque-steer/

TommyDeVito

I've driven one mildly tuned. Wheel spin and torque steer. And it wasn't 50% added power or anything close. If you don't want these traits leave it stock. But this is the tuner's segment.

InitialDougie

Hondata Flashpro has the ability to pull torque out of 1st and 2nd to maximize traction, it's available on their base tune. Even more specific tuning can be done about that if you'd like and for your application. But just like any RWD car, if you go into a corner to hot or turn in too harshly you lose traction, wheels spin and you move more slowly (some would say gracefully). In the case of the CTR, the car would understeer, possibly wheel spin, but it is nothing like a traditional FWD...being a ham-fist, heavy-footed driver will cause traction problems in any car.

Scigheras

The torque steer I give you, but a 'right' wheel drive car will wheel spin just as well.

TommyDeVito

And produce oversteer. And if it's designed properly, controllable, and predictable. Fail wheel drive torque steering is just stupid. I view this car the same as if a Japanese sporbike mfr. made a front wheel drive literbike, with some "revolutionary" bs, nannies, etc. Nobody would buy it.

Iilac

Not sure on your driving ability but to the people who have experienced one have raved about it's driving ability. It might be wrong wheel drive but I concede that I or probably even you will never be able to drive the CTR, where FWD is the limiting factor.

As for your analogy for a FWD bike that no one will buy, the CTR has been selling and demand remains strong.