Porsche 718 Boxster & Boxster S Switch to Turbo 4s
02-03-2016, 06:49 AM
#71
Don't be so sure. TPC had no problem fitting a turbo on the 3.4 H6's. I realize an OEM has different packaging standards, but still seems like a flimsy excuse. Of course it's worth noting that the new 3.0 engine in the 911 has two turbos. So I can believe that wouldn't fit in the 981. But I'm sure the 3.0 liter engine with just one turbo would.
02-03-2016, 06:51 AM
#72
On the turboed Boxsters that are coming out, will they have an air/air intercooler? It's my understanding that the supposed reason they couldn't turbo the older Boxsters/Caymans was because the rear strut suspension took up space in the rear quarter panels that the intercoolers would occupy, a la 911.
But I agree with deepbluejh that it's less of an engineering challenge and more of a marketing decision.
But I agree with deepbluejh that it's less of an engineering challenge and more of a marketing decision.
02-03-2016, 06:55 AM
#73
Yes, they will have an air/air intercooler. It's fed by the air intake on the passenger side of the car, behind the door.
02-03-2016, 07:17 AM
#74
Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1454427821' post='23869301
The 3.0T won't fit, according to Porsche.
They also told us a turbocharged Boxster/Cayman platform couldn't happen because there wasn't enough airflow to cool the turbos... yet here we are today.
The real reason for keeping the 6 cylinder to the 911 is greater product differentiation between "big brother" and "little brother".
It's not like they turbo'd the old flat 6. They turbo'd a new, more compact engine.
02-03-2016, 07:20 AM
#75
On the turboed Boxsters that are coming out, will they have an air/air intercooler? It's my understanding that the supposed reason they couldn't turbo the older Boxsters/Caymans was because the rear strut suspension took up space in the rear quarter panels that the intercoolers would occupy, a la 911.
But I agree with deepbluejh that it's less of an engineering challenge and more of a marketing decision.
But I agree with deepbluejh that it's less of an engineering challenge and more of a marketing decision.
It's probably true that they can't drop in the 911 engine, as is, but it's also probably not true that they couldn't adapt its configuration to fit. It's a "narrow" truth...
02-03-2016, 07:38 AM
#76
Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1454427821' post='23869301
The 3.0T won't fit, according to Porsche.
They also told us a turbocharged Boxster/Cayman platform couldn't happen because there wasn't enough airflow to cool the turbos... yet here we are today.
The real reason for keeping the 6 cylinder to the 911 is greater product differentiation between "big brother" and "little brother".
02-04-2016, 10:45 AM
#77
981.2 Boxster configurator is online now:
http://www.porsche.com/usa/modelstar...modelrange=718
Base price is $3400 over 981.1 Cayman's, which is a pretty significant increase. I know Porsche is swapping the position in its line-up between Boxster and Cayman. I'm curious to see how much lower the 981.2 Cayman would be compared to the Boxster.
http://www.porsche.com/usa/modelstar...modelrange=718
Base price is $3400 over 981.1 Cayman's, which is a pretty significant increase. I know Porsche is swapping the position in its line-up between Boxster and Cayman. I'm curious to see how much lower the 981.2 Cayman would be compared to the Boxster.
02-04-2016, 12:09 PM
#78
It's just screwing the consumer yet again. Instead of swapping prices, they leapfrogged the old price. No way the new Cayman is cheaper than the old one!
03-03-2016, 06:05 AM
#79
It seems like the car magazines are going soft on Porsche, and intentionally understating the impact this engine change will have on the car's driving experience.
Car and Driver just completed a long term test of a 2014 Cayman S and they absolutely fell in love with the car, specifically the engine. Here are of few of the things they had to say:
"So integral to the appeal of the Cayman is its delicious exhaust and intake noise that the thought of it going silent - of not getting to experience it again in this particular car or in any future Cayman - was genuinely saddening"
"That engine noise was the reason that, when we had optioned our long-termer 15 months before, we chose the $2825 sport exhaust option to amplify the aural pleasure."
Under Rants & Raves:
"I need more flat-six noise in my life"
"The Cayman's engine sound surely plays over the loudspeakers in heaven. At least, my heaven."
And my personal favorite, unrelated to sound: "People may think this is a starter Porsche, but they are asshats. This is the real McCoy."
Also looks like C&D's Cayman was a particularly fast example. 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. Not too shabby for the 6sp manual.
Car and Driver just completed a long term test of a 2014 Cayman S and they absolutely fell in love with the car, specifically the engine. Here are of few of the things they had to say:
"So integral to the appeal of the Cayman is its delicious exhaust and intake noise that the thought of it going silent - of not getting to experience it again in this particular car or in any future Cayman - was genuinely saddening"
"That engine noise was the reason that, when we had optioned our long-termer 15 months before, we chose the $2825 sport exhaust option to amplify the aural pleasure."
Under Rants & Raves:
"I need more flat-six noise in my life"
"The Cayman's engine sound surely plays over the loudspeakers in heaven. At least, my heaven."
And my personal favorite, unrelated to sound: "People may think this is a starter Porsche, but they are asshats. This is the real McCoy."
Also looks like C&D's Cayman was a particularly fast example. 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. Not too shabby for the 6sp manual.
03-03-2016, 10:21 AM
#80
I obviously love the flat six and my GT4 sounds amazing, but the videos that I've heard of the 718 Boxster S, it really sounds pretty good, especially for a turbo flat 4. It has some pops and crackles and I know that torque will feel nice.
I was just asked if I wanted on the 718 GT4 wait list at my dealer and I said yes. I don't know what it will be like, but it'll probably be awesome and will quite possibly still have an NA flat six on that model. TBD.
I was just asked if I wanted on the 718 GT4 wait list at my dealer and I said yes. I don't know what it will be like, but it'll probably be awesome and will quite possibly still have an NA flat six on that model. TBD.