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Pontiac Sunfire, multiple failures, out of control

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Old 02-02-2004, 09:11 PM
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and even if it is in gear, you can pop it out easily enough without the clutch.

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Originally posted by Quick2K
and even if it is in gear, you can pop it out easily enough without the clutch.

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This is true
Old 02-02-2004, 10:15 PM
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you'd have to pay me to drive a pontiac
Old 02-03-2004, 12:13 PM
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How did she get onto the highway in the first place?? This is the stupidest thing I've read today...and I just finished reading the onion.
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Seems like a load of bull to me. The one scenerio I can think of is that the cruisecontrol malfunctioned and she overheated/glazed her brakes which caused her to belive that the brakes had failed to. Not sure about the ignition unless there is some kind of lock that prevents the key from being removed when the car is in gear. BTW, I bet an examination of the car will reveal no problems at all.
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At least the hazard lights worked.
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Originally posted by steve c
Another point to ponder.

If the car was in fact stuck wide open at WOT you would think that 150 miles of banging off the rev limiter (which more than likely uses a fuel-cutoff scenario to achieve it's purposes) would cause the motor to go ... POP.

The only possible scenario I can think of is that the cruise control was somehow stuck on and malfunctioning, meanwhile the dimwit behind the whee rendered the brakes ineffective by never using them fully in the first few minutes of trying to slow down and was too stupid to realize she could just turn the car off or take it out of gear.
In the case of a new J-Body (I've sadly had both a Cavalier and Sunfire), the cars are speed limited at 108. It uses a fuel cutoff method much like the rev limiter would. Considering the shoddy tires they put on them, I'm surprised one of them didn't explode in the distance of 150 miles at those speeds.

As for the cruise control, that's a possibility. I've had some cruise control problems that are really fishy with my car. However, a shift into neutral would disengage the cruise. I use that method a lot when I need to slow down without using the brakes to disengage the cruise.

Sounds like the girl is just dumb, because most of those systems are mechanical, and not electrical, thus making a system wide failure unlikely.

Maybe she should go play PowerBall.
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What happened? Easy, same thing that happened in all the cases of "sudden acceleration" a few years back. She had her foot to the floor on the accelerator, thought she had it on the brake and totally freaked out. Mind just quit working (assuming that it had worked at some point). Finally got stopped, blamed it on the car. I would be willing to bet a bunch of steve c's money that a subsequent examination of the car would reveal no problems.
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If the clutch was broken (doubt it) if it was a manual popping into neutral wouldn't kill the cruise, usually it's a clutch brake switch, neutral would just rev and go nowhere
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I would be willing to bet a bunch of steve c's money that a subsequent examination of the car would reveal no problems.
If you are spending my money, it had better be on hookers and beer.
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