Oh Look, all you Genesis Coupe Naysayers! ;)
02-27-2009, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Feb 27 2009, 11:59 AM
I'm still very impressed with the Genesis Coupe (and Sedan) as a first-try at a RWD platform from Hyundai. These cars will be a huge hit and probably the cars that will "make" Hyundai a true competitor.
It may be that the Genesis coupe breaks open the coupe market for Hyundai, but it's been a long time since that segment was a high-visability one as far as total market. If Hyundai really wants to rule the world, the way to do it is through family sedans and compact/midsized crossovers (and apparently their entries in these segments are pretty good.) Having the top $25-30k sports coupe is nice and fun, but doesn't translate to huge sales and influence. Just ask Acura (RSX dead) Toyota (Celica dead) and Honda (Prelude dead.)
02-27-2009, 09:09 AM
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Nice comparison. I love the FLAT torque curve of the Genesis, and the interior looks pretty nice as well. Not a fan of the "drivetrain protection" feature they have (it really kills the car's 0-60 and 1/4 mile times), but I'm sure there will be a few tuner companies offering solutions for that.
Whether you like the car or not, Hyundai is gonna sell a ton of these, and it's going to put more pressure on companies like Nissan, Honda, and Toyota to produce something even better. In a few years, I have a feeling that the Hyundai stigma will be gone and they will be synonymous with their Japanese counterparts. Competition is always a good thing in this industry
Whether you like the car or not, Hyundai is gonna sell a ton of these, and it's going to put more pressure on companies like Nissan, Honda, and Toyota to produce something even better. In a few years, I have a feeling that the Hyundai stigma will be gone and they will be synonymous with their Japanese counterparts. Competition is always a good thing in this industry
02-27-2009, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by diabolus2k,Feb 27 2009, 01:09 PM
Whether you like the car or not, Hyundai is gonna sell a ton of these, and it's going to put more pressure on companies like Nissan, Honda, and Toyota to produce something even better.
02-27-2009, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wickerbill,Feb 27 2009, 10:31 AM
So have the hyundai smack talkers just organized or have they been laying in wait, frustrated the past 20 years hoping they could start talking some smack?
02-27-2009, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster,Feb 27 2009, 08:33 AM
Apparently there's a forum rule that every car must have a the champion to tirelessly defend it against any slight, real or imagined. The GT-R has a guy whose name I've forgotten because I've got him blocked, the FD RX-7 has that ZX-11 guy, whose name I'm forgetting because I've got him blocked, and now the Genesis has xxForged-something, whose name I'm likewise forgetting because I've got him blocked too. 
I'm imagining these guys at home in front of their keyboards, faces turning purple, blood vessels in their necks throbbing, whenever anyone casually mentions that they like a car that's 0.1 seconds slower in the quarter mile or that makes 5 less horses than the Chosen One.
I'm imagining these guys at home in front of their keyboards, faces turning purple, blood vessels in their necks throbbing, whenever anyone casually mentions that they like a car that's 0.1 seconds slower in the quarter mile or that makes 5 less horses than the Chosen One.
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Hey, xxForgedxx, I thought the VQ37 only made 258 hp at the wheels, what happened here? Seems like your in a Catch 22 - either the beloved Genesis makes way less than the advertised 306 or the VQ37 makes more than your willing to admit. Just goes to show that 2 different dynos on 2 different days can rarely be accurately compared.
Just as a note, the G37 won nearly every category - only to be beat out via price. The Genesis seems like a nice car, but to say that its better than the G37 is to say that the 370z is better than the Cayman S cause Car and Driver said it was better considering price, despite losing almost every category as well.
Hey, xxForgedxx, I thought the VQ37 only made 258 hp at the wheels, what happened here? Seems like your in a Catch 22 - either the beloved Genesis makes way less than the advertised 306 or the VQ37 makes more than your willing to admit. Just goes to show that 2 different dynos on 2 different days can rarely be accurately compared.
Just as a note, the G37 won nearly every category - only to be beat out via price. The Genesis seems like a nice car, but to say that its better than the G37 is to say that the 370z is better than the Cayman S cause Car and Driver said it was better considering price, despite losing almost every category as well.
Some people will say anything to try to win. Maybe he's a politician? McForged?
02-27-2009, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Stack,Feb 27 2009, 10:18 AM
They may sell a bunch, but I seriously doubt it's going to make Honda and Toyota say oh sh--, we need to go build a RWD coupe. H/T got out of the sports coupe game years ago, killing some VERY successful nameplates (Integra/RSX/Prelude and Celica) and don't seem to be too concerned by it. You guys are wildly overestimating the significance of sports coupes. Hell, Ford's had the Mustang for decades, made a buncha money on it, and that hasn't enticed H/T into the fight. How is this Hyundai any different?