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(no toe-heeling) Do you downshift before or during or after a turn?
12-23-2002, 04:53 PM
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Double clutching is from back in the day when transmissions didn't have synchros.
When you wanted to shift gears, you would:[list=1]
[*]Push in the clutch.
[*]Put the car into neutral.
[*]Let out the clutch.
[*]Rev the engine to the appropriate speed for the next gear you want. This has the effect of spinning up the transmission imput shaft so that the gears mesh smoothly. In modern transmissions, this is handled by the synchros.
[*]Push in the clutch.
[*]Put the car into the next gear.
[*]Let out the clutch.[/list=1]
As you can see, it gets its name from using the clutch twice for each gear shift.
When you wanted to shift gears, you would:[list=1]
[*]Push in the clutch.
[*]Put the car into neutral.
[*]Let out the clutch.
[*]Rev the engine to the appropriate speed for the next gear you want. This has the effect of spinning up the transmission imput shaft so that the gears mesh smoothly. In modern transmissions, this is handled by the synchros.
[*]Push in the clutch.
[*]Put the car into the next gear.
[*]Let out the clutch.[/list=1]
As you can see, it gets its name from using the clutch twice for each gear shift.
12-24-2002, 04:34 AM
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To add a little to what Elistan said, double-clutching is basically unnecessary in most modern cars. There are some situations though where it comes in handy to be able to do it. With the S, for example, it's hard to get the tranny to engage first sometimes when cold if the car is in motion. A quick double-clutch makes it much easier and smoother. In general though, it does reduce wear on the syncromesh and can make gear engagement slightly smoother. It also gives you one more opportunity to rev the engine a little and hear it sing 
12-26-2002, 08:57 AM
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Sounds a little time consuming if in the heat of a race, eh? I tend to give a blip of the throttle to mesh gears, or heel-toe when coming to a harder stop or turn.
I'll have to try double-clutching in my Prelude on a cold morning and see if it helps engaging first gear from second.
Thanks!
I'll have to try double-clutching in my Prelude on a cold morning and see if it helps engaging first gear from second.
Thanks!
12-31-2002, 03:31 PM
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which ever method that you prefer....get the car settled before the turn. I just prefer heel toe. It is unneccesary, but instead of two phases.....brake.......revmatch and downshit, why not do all three at the same time in less time. plus it is fun when a passenger notices that your revs went up when you were slowing down.
How did you do that?......
How did you do that?......
12-31-2002, 03:57 PM
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How do you "downshit?" 
Is this when your dog leaves a stinky present in the back seat?
Sorry...I couldn't help myself.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by kamehamaha
[B]which ever method that you prefer....get the car settled before the turn. I just prefer heel toe. It is unneccesary, but instead of two phases.....brake.......revmatch and downshit, why not do all three at the same time in less time. plus it is fun when a passenger notices that your revs went up when you were slowing down.
Is this when your dog leaves a stinky present in the back seat?Sorry...I couldn't help myself.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by kamehamaha
[B]which ever method that you prefer....get the car settled before the turn. I just prefer heel toe. It is unneccesary, but instead of two phases.....brake.......revmatch and downshit, why not do all three at the same time in less time. plus it is fun when a passenger notices that your revs went up when you were slowing down.
12-31-2002, 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by Elistan
On the street w/o heal-toe, here is my procedure - brake on, clutch in, shift into lower gear, brake off, begin turn, sometime during the turn let out the clutch and give it some gas.
On the street w/o heal-toe, here is my procedure - brake on, clutch in, shift into lower gear, brake off, begin turn, sometime during the turn let out the clutch and give it some gas.
