No idea why people consider a Cayman over a 911
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comparing a WRX to a 911 is like comparing a 1994 Civic Si (US SPEC) to the 2010 Civic Si. Old tech to new tech with new safety regulations. Yeah, you can make the old Civic as fast as the new around a AutoX or race track, but you'd need to dump a lot of money into it (especially for road course) and it will never be as nice for dual duty.
Most people that consider Porsches don't want to do a bunch of mods to make it as good as ??? whatever higher goal there is. Porsche has always done a great job of selling you something that basically needs nothing.. . It's one reason I really wish I could afford the new 2014 Cayman S. Buy an extra set of track wheels and tires and just drive... I'll toy with my M3 with mods.
Most people that consider Porsches don't want to do a bunch of mods to make it as good as ??? whatever higher goal there is. Porsche has always done a great job of selling you something that basically needs nothing.. . It's one reason I really wish I could afford the new 2014 Cayman S. Buy an extra set of track wheels and tires and just drive... I'll toy with my M3 with mods.
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The 2009+ models (997.2) have a new engine (9A1) with direct injection that has apparently solved the IMS issue as I don't believe there have been any reported failures.
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After reading C&D's Z51 vs. 991S comparison, I have to wonder if the C7 is going to steal a lot of sales from both the 911 and Cayman/Boxster. I'm a huge Porsche fan, but would need to have way more money than I could ever use to pay the Porsche premium over a C7 Z51. Especially after seeing my first one in person last week - it looked a lot better than in pics to my eyes.
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It's actualy even simpler than that. The 9A1 engine design does not have an IMS bearing. A very, very effective solution to avoiding future issues.
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Originally Posted by Silverstreak HX' timestamp='1382799748' post='22847605
I also have a copy of Total 911 that gave a long term update on the 997 and it said that not one had the IMS issue the plagued the 996.
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Yes, but the 997 up to 2008 still has that motor, so it's still just as prone to failure.
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The handling of the Cayman is better than the 911 but it does not feel anywhere near as fast and compared to the S2000 and Subaru Turbos it just does not justify its price point to me of being expensive but not feeling much faster than the Subaru turbo cars. The 911 has a visceral feel of it just pulls and pulls at any speed , any gear and while a 997S is a little faster than the WRX, and STI the total package of awe inspiring brakes, great handling , wonderful sound of the flat 6 behind you , and don't forget that steering feel makes you go "Wow" every time and the Cayman S did not even come close to making me say wow .
The Cayman went to Direct Injection in 09 so those are faster . Have not driven one of those yet.
I also have a copy of Total 911 that gave a long term update on the 997 and it said that not one had the IMS issue the plagued the 996.
The Cayman went to Direct Injection in 09 so those are faster . Have not driven one of those yet.
I also have a copy of Total 911 that gave a long term update on the 997 and it said that not one had the IMS issue the plagued the 996.
and as a matter of fact, S2000 does not have a WOW steering feel.