Next version of Cayman/Boxster will include turbo flat 4
05-20-2015, 04:04 AM
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Next version of Cayman/Boxster will include turbo flat 4
http://jalopnik.com/america-will-get...-ca-1705645169
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...ylinders-in-16
Thoughts? Will this mean that the NA 6 cylinder cars will appreciate in value?
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...ylinders-in-16
Porsche will begin selling four-cylinder versions of its Boxster and Cayman sports cars in the U.S. in mid-2016, CEO Matthias Mueller said. Porsche last sold four-cylinder engines in this market 20 years ago.
If you’re here to be all “WHARRGARBL FUEL ECONOMY HIPPIE CARS” about these engines, look on the bright side. They’re said to put out close to 400 horsepower, and at least they’re flat-fours in keeping with Porsche’s heritage and not repurposed Volkswagen or Audi motors. They’ll also make Porsche’s sub-911 sports cars lighter, always a good thing.
If you’re here to be all “WHARRGARBL FUEL ECONOMY HIPPIE CARS” about these engines, look on the bright side. They’re said to put out close to 400 horsepower, and at least they’re flat-fours in keeping with Porsche’s heritage and not repurposed Volkswagen or Audi motors. They’ll also make Porsche’s sub-911 sports cars lighter, always a good thing.
05-20-2015, 05:18 AM
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I don't think the cars will be getting 400HP. That's just too big of a jump over the 265/315/330 (Boxster) they have now. It would also put it on par with the current 911 S - which means that they would also have the give the entire 911 lineup a big power bump to keep it ahead of the plebeian Boxsters and Caymans.
Also, a 400HP 4 cylinder would likely be an even higher stressed engine than the engine in the 911 Turbo S, which has a 560HP flat 6. Given the price point of the Boxsters and Caymans, I just don't see it happening. My prediction is that the entire lineup will get a mild power boost (to maybe 285/340/370) with a big jump in torque. It will be very interesting to see how the new engines play out and how the market will receive them.
It will also be very interesting to see what the values of the last N/A powered Caymans and Boxsters do once everything goes turbo. The last aircooled 911s - especially the turbos - are now worth an absolute mint. I have to say I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing happen to my Cayman.
Also, a 400HP 4 cylinder would likely be an even higher stressed engine than the engine in the 911 Turbo S, which has a 560HP flat 6. Given the price point of the Boxsters and Caymans, I just don't see it happening. My prediction is that the entire lineup will get a mild power boost (to maybe 285/340/370) with a big jump in torque. It will be very interesting to see how the new engines play out and how the market will receive them.
It will also be very interesting to see what the values of the last N/A powered Caymans and Boxsters do once everything goes turbo. The last aircooled 911s - especially the turbos - are now worth an absolute mint. I have to say I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing happen to my Cayman.
05-20-2015, 05:29 AM
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Didn't click the above articles, but I've read a few others. It will be interesting to see if a turbo-4 becomes the only motor, or just the base model engine.
Porsche is well known for its flat-6s. They have a distinct sound. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed at the thought of a turbo-4 in a Porsche, as it seems like a step back closer to the mainstream. As long as they keep a higher performance flat-6 in the lineup, it doesn't bother me too much.
Now I really hope I get lucky in the PCA raffle for a GT4. Wish me luck...
Porsche is well known for its flat-6s. They have a distinct sound. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed at the thought of a turbo-4 in a Porsche, as it seems like a step back closer to the mainstream. As long as they keep a higher performance flat-6 in the lineup, it doesn't bother me too much.
Now I really hope I get lucky in the PCA raffle for a GT4. Wish me luck...
05-20-2015, 05:37 AM
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Didn't click the above articles, but I've read a few others. It will be interesting to see if a turbo-4 becomes the only motor, or just the base model engine.
Porsche is well known for its flat-6s. They have a distinct sound. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed at the thought of a turbo-4 in a Porsche, as it seems like a step back closer to the mainstream. As long as they keep a higher performance flat-6 in the lineup, it doesn't bother me too much.
Now I really hope I get lucky in the PCA raffle for a GT4. Wish me luck...
Porsche is well known for its flat-6s. They have a distinct sound. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed at the thought of a turbo-4 in a Porsche, as it seems like a step back closer to the mainstream. As long as they keep a higher performance flat-6 in the lineup, it doesn't bother me too much.
Now I really hope I get lucky in the PCA raffle for a GT4. Wish me luck...
05-20-2015, 07:16 AM
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The figure quoted (395hp) would be for the top level trim 2.5L turbo. The base (2.0L?) would be making far less. Even still, 395 is suspiciously high, even for a GTS level trim.
05-20-2015, 07:20 AM
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It seems like the car manufacturers have mastered the turbo 4. I still remember the integra/civic days where people turbo their B18's and would have disgusting lag. BMW and now Porches. I drove my friends 2015 428i, and the turbo 4 is quite smooth and preppy.
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05-20-2015, 07:22 AM
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With the 911s all going turbo, maybe they'll experience a significant enough power bump such that a 400hp Cayman or Boxster isn't going to cut into their sales.
05-20-2015, 07:38 AM
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I just don't see it. Incremental change is a game that Porsche is very good at. I can't see why they would blow the lid off it now...
05-20-2015, 08:17 AM
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People used turbos that were way too big for the motor. I had a turbo single cam 1.6 Civic EX that spooled as quick as modern BMW's and other turbo 4 cyl. It used a small ball bearing ihi turbo.