New WRX
#11
After Subaru dropped the buy eye Impreza, the WRX and STi have lost their appeal to me.
#12
It will be the 2.0 liter this time and the turbo will be mounted under the engine. Any more than that the Subaru enthusiasts have no idea.
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Seriously, I can buy a 2004 STI which will have the same performance as a brand new 2013 model. This is becoming S2000-like.
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Why change what doesn't need to be changed? Manufacturer spec battles just results in companies going broke, pricing going up, and the car becoming overpowered for the street. The performance is fine as it is, and if you want more, you don't have to spend very much to get it.
#16
If you could find an STI/EVO thats not beat to heck for a good price used, then go for it. Otherwise youre going new. Cmoooon coupe!
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Why change what doesn't need to be changed? Manufacturer spec battles just results in companies going broke, pricing going up, and the car becoming overpowered for the street. The performance is fine as it is, and if you want more, you don't have to spend very much to get it.
Power priorities are low on the totem pole for the WRX. Instead of improving power, these are the things the WRX truly needs:
1. ~30 mpg hwy
2. run regular fuel (87 octane). Every other non-German turbo-four runs 87 octane
3. better seats (just use BR-Z seats?), better trim (this is a +$25K car).
4. continue to improve cabin isolation from road-noise
5. step it up on paint quality
If they want to touch the power, just improve the power-band instead.
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The problem with these cars is if you want a nice example of a used one, you will be within a couple grand of something brand new. I have no idea why anybody would purchase one used without getting a great deal + knowing the history.
Every single time I have test driven a WRX that was on a dealer lot, something was wrong with it where it didnt run quite right.
My buddy bought a 2012 WRX base hatch and I absolutely love it for a DD type car. Has some balls with the cobb AP, intake and DP and with the hatch and AWD it's unstoppable for us in the NE.. but as a "sports car" to drive on backroads and such, the thing is a pig. Understeer galore, body roll, feels like a 4000lb car with stiff suspension and beefed up sway bars... because it is. It doesnt hide its weight at all.
Looking forward to a smaller, hopefully lighter version of this car.
Every single time I have test driven a WRX that was on a dealer lot, something was wrong with it where it didnt run quite right.
My buddy bought a 2012 WRX base hatch and I absolutely love it for a DD type car. Has some balls with the cobb AP, intake and DP and with the hatch and AWD it's unstoppable for us in the NE.. but as a "sports car" to drive on backroads and such, the thing is a pig. Understeer galore, body roll, feels like a 4000lb car with stiff suspension and beefed up sway bars... because it is. It doesnt hide its weight at all.
Looking forward to a smaller, hopefully lighter version of this car.
#20
Why change what doesn't need to be changed? Manufacturer spec battles just results in companies going broke, pricing going up, and the car becoming overpowered for the street. The performance is fine as it is, and if you want more, you don't have to spend very much to get it.
-vehicle weight goes down or stays the same. Instead it's gone up
-vehicle sale price stays the same. Instead it's gone up
Once you realize that then the frustration is pretty simple to understand.
Originally Posted by LFK' timestamp='1362726260' post='22388855
Why change what doesn't need to be changed? Manufacturer spec battles just results in companies going broke, pricing going up, and the car becoming overpowered for the street. The performance is fine as it is, and if you want more, you don't have to spend very much to get it.
Power priorities are low on the totem pole for the WRX. Instead of improving power, these are the things the WRX truly needs:
1. ~30 mpg hwy
2. run regular fuel (87 octane). Every other non-German turbo-four runs 87 octane
3. better seats (just use BR-Z seats?), better trim (this is a +$25K car).
4. continue to improve cabin isolation from road-noise
5. step it up on paint quality
If they want to touch the power, just improve the power-band instead.
FWIW, over on the Impreza boards it seems to be common knowledge that the current WRX's engine is underrated. That it's SAE 265hp is really more like 280-290hp.