Scot

i agree with Wombat........supposedly MT (and maybe other mags) "corrects" their numbers to sea level and 59F and whatever humidity..... at that point my 13.4 @102mph that I ran stock would be damn close 13.1 if corrected.

Since then though MT has tested the RS and now the new MR and has posted about 13.3-13.4 for both....so that first test was probably a fluke or they got a ringer.

[QUOTE=AbusiveWombat,Sep 13 2004, 02:48 PM]The Motortrend time is debatable.

Chris in SD

$3K in Evo mods (if strictly applied to gaining power) will net you over 350 whp. No sweat. I have about $1500 in power mods (the rest are in brakes, wheels, etc.) and I am making about 300 whp. If you drop $3K in an S2000, you'll be lucky to get 10-15 whp gain. Not drama, just facts.

A turbo kit for the Evo (including manifold, turbo, and the extras needed) will run about $4,000 for a good one and $6,000 for a very good one.

Once again, realize that these are two COMPLETELY different cars built on COMPLETELY different philosophies. Once that is accepted, you'll be able to enjoy and respect both cars.

iceple

huh?

S2KEvolution

i posted a race in street encounters about this... it was between me and an evo running exhaust and 22psi... when i raced him i had 206.7rwhp. he beat me only by 1/2 car in an 1/8th mile. he pulled really hard in 1st gear and i gained back half a car. in reality he should have at my a$$ alive running 22lbs, but he didn't.

hpark

ummmm....let's not go there

hpark

I just don't think one can compare trap speeds between AWD and RWD cars (street tires) because of AWD's inherent traction/off the line advantage...I believe if the EVO was RWD (disregarding drivetrain loss differences between AWD and RWD) it would trap higher than what it's currently doing (100 mph?)....if the S2000 was AWD it'd trap lower than what it currently does ((disregarding drivetrain loss differences)...
i'm sure some people will argue otherwise

AbusiveWombat

Actually trap speed is a great way to compare rolling acceleration between different drivetrains. Hell, it's a great way to take the driver partially out of the equation.

For example:
EVO (AWD): 13.5 @100mph
350z (RWD): 13.9 @ 100 mph
SRT4 (FWD): 14.0 @ 100 mph
Car&Driver's latest C6 test: ~13.3 @ 115mph (if I remember correctly)

The SRT4, 350z, and EVO all have VERY similar rolling acceleration. From a dig the EVO has the largest advantage, followed by the 350z, and the SRT4 is at the biggest disadvantage. This is all reflected in the ET but the trap speeds are all the same, indicating that they all have similar rolling acceleration. I threw in the C6 test to show that while the C6 and EVO have similar ET's, from a roll the C6 will demolish an EVO.

hpark

this does sound reasonable...but I still can't help thinking that EVO is faster than an S2000....launch, roll, track, whatever