omgitsoop

agreed. also, the naturally aspirated rs4 motor makes 414bhp. they throw in two turbos, and now it makes 450. seems like a minimal bump to me. id like to see the torque #s please!

David1

I love seeing the HP war/design war continue between BMW and Audi. It is only making the cars better and better with each generation while Honda is just making small motored hybrid toys and has abandoned this GT arena if they even ever were in it. I can't wait for the next gen M3 with the turbo 6cyl in a 2-3 years. Now if BMW and Audi were to place some killer diesels in these cars with 600 foot punds of torque. I can picture the Audi in pearl white with red leather!

Presto123

Sick. I want it.

JonBoy

I disagree that it's not a 3-Series competitor. It is bigger than the M3 overall but it is priced to match it. At this level, cars are competing by price, not necessarily by size.

You're right - the S5 is heavier than I stated. I thought it was heavier but what I googled brought up lighter weights than you listed. The automatic version is nearly 4000 lbs!

CosmosMpower

Bet the M3 still spanks it around a real road course. I've driven one and was pleasantly surprised it doesn't feel as heavy as it is on paper. There is PLENTY of low end grunt with the V8 (100 ft lbs more @ 2,000 rpms would really limit the traction) and the brakes are fantastic.

termigni

oh man. they couldn't do it with S4 so they made RS4. Now the RS5 can't even do it. what's next RRS5 with V10tt?

MrClean

You're right. I'm a little disappointed too that Audi did not do more to distinguish the RS5 trim level from the lesser A5 and S5.

nearwater4me

At last.
Very sexy car with enough power to move it around now.
I like everything except the price tag.
With current S5 priced at $60k(with options), I'm guessing near $80k for one of those. That's 911 territory.
Gorgeous car nontheless.

Dan

MrClean

Maybe.

I've been thinking about this more and for the majority of us and the majority of the time, this would not be a factor. In the real world of driving on the street (where maybe 5-6 tenths of a car is safely attainable) the car with the better driver and/or more torque (for stop light jaunts) seems to decide performance supremacy, and bragging rights.

For me, things fairly equal, I'll take the Audi over the BMW with its AWD and great exterior/interior designs.

Chris S

I won't lose any sleep about it.

M3 still has it beat (IMO) in weight dist. (engine behind vs. ahead of the front axle), weight (my understanding is that the M3's published weight includes a driver, and they actually weigh ~200 lbs. +/- under published specs), and less drivetrain loss.

I've seen M3 0-60 as low as 4.1-4.2 secs.

If I lived in a climate where I'd need to drive it in snow, then I'd likely go for the Audi. Pretty good traction year-round in Austin!