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Old 02-08-2010, 03:40 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the reason for this car, in general, and for the transmission specifically has to do with the GTR. THe regular "row your own gears" 911 turbo is only marginally slower than the GTR, but depending on who is doing the driving, it could be much slower. This transmission adds several advantages in performance, but more in maintaining the car as a bench march.

Anyone disagree?
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nevert00fast,Feb 8 2010, 04:27 PM
I agree with you guys that the PDK will shift faster than I can ever shift and it'll keep the TT in boost between shifts a lot better than I can. BUT, I probably won't ever track the car and I'm not racing 0-60 from light to light when I'm on the street or timing myself on the way to the supermarket. I think after a while the PDK will get boring, nothing beats rowing your own gears in a sports car. I guess the purists can still get the base TT, GT3, & the RS in 6spd.....for now. The 911TT has been slowly evolving into a GT car so I guess the PDK only Turbo S is not really a big surprise.
You've really got so many to choose from that would give you that option. Plus, I would suspect that someone who wants to do their own shifting is probably also more willing to mod the car. Once you start modding, you can easily make up any performance disparity between the S and the regular 911 turbo. But, for all of the doctors who want a 911 that is faster on paper than the GT-R, they've got an off-the-shelf-option.

Of course, I am only guessing this model will bridge the performance gap between the regular turbo 911 and the GT-R.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nevert00fast,Feb 8 2010, 10:51 AM
There were a few discussions on 6speed regarding the new "integrated dry sump" system on the new turbo engines. Seems like it's different from a traditional true dry sump system. IIRC, they couldn't fit the PDK on the older GT1 blocks because of the dry sump system.
The new Turbo switched over to share the newly developed DFI 9A1 (M10x type) engine with the base 997 rather than the traditional race-derived block (M97.76). These are very different platform, which is why the Turbo won't have true dry sump system anymore. What it gets in return is much less parts (something crazy like 40% less if I recall correctly), which "should" make it less costly to manufacture and reliable. Time will tell. The drawback is that the first gen DFI system has yet to be proven.

This is also a departure of the incremental approach Porsche used to take in development. From what I read from Car and Driver, Volks plan to make Porsche the brand to lead with innovation. Kind of like what Nissan did to the GTR, and Mercedes.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RS2000,Feb 8 2010, 08:23 PM
T What it gets in return is much less parts (something crazy like 40% less if I recall correctly), which "should" make it less costly to manufacture and reliable.
Yah, the new motor is cheaper to build than the old one. Hats off to Porsche on that one though, making a engine that's cheaper to produce while making it more efficient and powerful than the previous one. Most of the turbo buyers will not know or ask about the difference between a true dry sump and the integrated dry sump system.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:23 PM
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soooo many fast cars right now, Honda where are you!!
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:42 AM
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now if I just had the money
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:31 AM
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Assuming I had another car for DD duty, I'd easily choose the 2010 GT3 RS over this Turbo S. One is a track-focused sportscar, the other a big horsepower GT.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:17 AM
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The thing about the PDK is it's too good.

I mean look at this blazing 0-100 whilst drinking the coke. Talk about no driver involvment.

http://theprodigalguide.com/2009/12/12/chr...rinking-a-coke/
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:21 AM
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What can you say? The mighty 911 Turbo
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impressive but i still think the turbo is for wealthy lawyers who cant drive and the gt3/R is for enthusiasts.
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