Mr.E.G.

That's not true of the NC. I wouldn't be surprised if the s2000's chassis is more rigid, but it would be a marginal difference. Your statement would be true of an NA or NB, but the NC is vastly superior.

JonBoy

The S2000 is 7100 Nm/deg. From a Mitsu Evo site, they list the NA and NB at about 6000 Nm/deg and the NB would therefore be 8800 Nm/deg. Those are unverified numbers, though.

That'd make the NC 24% more torsionally resistant than the S2000.

[DT]

BMW Z4M
Torsional Stiffness: 14500Nm/degree

Notes: Nearly three times stiffer than the car it superseded, the Z3!!!

Lotus Elise
Torsional Stiffness: 10500Nm/degree

Notes: The incredible bonded and riveted aluminium-alloy body tub weighs in at under 100kg, let has a torsional stiffness of over 10000Nm/degree! Awesome...

New 2006 MX-5
Torsional Stiffness: 8800Nm/degree (est.)

Notes: Sales literature indicates that the new 2006 MX-5 is 47% stiffer than the original - which taking 6000Nm as our baseline, gives us an estimated figure of 8800Nm/degree

MX-5 (mk1)
Torsional Stiffness: 6000Nm/degree (approx)


BMW Z3
Torsional Stiffness: 5600Nm/degree


Dodge Viper Coupe 7,600 Nm/deg
Ford GT - 27,100 Nm/deg
Lamborghini Murcielago 20,000 Nm/deg
McLaren F1 - 13,500 Nm/deg
Pagani Zonda C12S - 25,000 Nm/deg
Pagani Zonda F - 27,000 Nm/degree
Porsche Carrera GT - 26,000Nm/degree
Koenigsegg CC8S: 28,100 Nm/deg
Ferrari F50: 34,600 Nm/deg
Lamborghini Gallardo: 23,000 Nm/deg
Some more values to add:

Chrysler Sebring (convertible) - 4400 Nm/deg
Honda S2000 - 7100 Nm/deg
Chevy Corvette (convertible) - 11000 Nm/deg
Volvo S80 - 18600 Nm/deg
Mustang 2003 16,000 Nm/deg
Mustang 2005 21,000 Nm/deg
Mustang Convertible (2003) 4,800 Nm/deg
Mustang Convertible (2005) 9,500 Nm/deg
Ferrari 360 Spider 8,500 Nm/deg


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Rolls Royce Phantom : 40,500 nm/deg
Koenigsseg CC : 28,100 nm/deg
Lamborghini Gallardo: 23,000 Nm/deg
Lamborghini Murcielago : 20,000 nm/deg
McLaren F1 : 13,500 Nm/deg
Pagani Zonda S : 26,300 nm/deg
Ferrari 360 Modena : 23,000 nm/deg
Ferrari 360 Spider : 8,500 Nm/deg
Ferrari 430 : 27600 nm/deg (supposedly 20% higher than 360)
Ferrari F50 : 34,600 Nm/deg
Aston Martin DB9 Coupe : 27,000 Nm/deg
Aston Martin DB9 Convertible : 15,500 Nm/deg
Lotus SID : 16,000 nm/deg
Lotus Elise 111S : 11,000 nm/deg
Lotus Elise S2 Exige (2004): 10,500 Nm/deg
Porsche 959 : 16,000 nm/deg
Porsche 911 Turbo(2000) : 13,500 Nm/deg
Porsche 911 Turbo 996 : 27,000 Nm/deg
Porsche 911 Turbo 996 Convertible: 11,600 Nm/deg
Jaguar XJ : 21,700 nm/deg
Jaguar X-type : 16,319 nm/deg
Chrysler Crossfire : 20,140 nm/deg
Dodge Viper Coupe : 7,600 Nm/deg
Volvo S60 : 20,000 nm/deg
Volvo S80 : 18,600 Nm/deg
Audi A2 : 11900 Nm/deg
Audi A8 : 25,000 Nm/deg
Audi A8 (2004) : 36,000 Nm/deg
Audi TT : 10,000 Nm/deg (22Hz)
Audi TT Coupe : 19,000 nm/deg
BMW Mini : 24,500 nm/deg
BMW E36 Z3 : 5,600 Nm/deg
BMW E46 : 18,000 nm/deg
BMW E90 : 22,500 nm/deg
BMW Z4: 14,500 Nm/deg
BMW Z4 M Coupe : 32,000 Nm/deg (BMW AG's press)
Volkswagen Fox: 17,941 Nm/deg
Volkswagen Golf V GTI : 25,000 Nm/deg
Volkswagen Phaeton : 37,000 Nm/deg
Ford GT40 MK1 : 29,000 nm/deg
Ford GT: 27,100 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang 2003 : 16,000 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang 2005 : 21,000 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang Convertible (2003) : 4,800 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang Convertible (2005) : 9,500 Nm/deg
Mazda Rx-8: 30,000 Nm/deg
Mazda Rx-7: ~15,000 Nm/deg
Alfa Romeo 159 : 31,400 nm/deg
Renault Sport Spider: 10,000 Nm/degree

JonBoy

The S2000 could be as high as 7800 Nm/deg, though, as the 2004+ cars saw a 9% front and 10% rear increase in torsional rigidity. So, that'd make the two relatively close (within 13% in favor of the NC).

[DT]

The long form of this post is just above I figured some of the other numbers were interesting comparison points.

Mr.E.G.

I was just about to post something similar.

I looked it up the last time ZX-10 and I got into a pissing match about chassis rigidity, but the thread imploded before I got a chance to post it up. lol.

Mr.E.G.

You also have to consider that the NC has less mass to work with so that for a given torsional rigidity value, it has less load being fed into it.

Now, that is a gross over generalization, but you get the point.

zachismisitok

ya, sounds like he said something else with little or no info to back it up

ahrmike

SO i saw this thread before I went to sleep the other day...and I was like ohhh boy, can of worms.

I was right!

but anyway, Glad you love your new car man, I'd love to drive a NC ...but honestly I love the look of a s2k better. If i had to pick a miata, I'd pick the NB, roll cage, coilovers, rims. teh sexy.

Mr.E.G.

Also, I think the McLaren f1 numbers are suspect.