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Old 10-25-2009, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by budgy,Oct 24 2009, 08:38 AM
if MS3 owners didn't care about low/midrange torque they would have bought a Honda. Not everyone wants an 8000+RPM screamer as their daily driver. So they could have made the head breathe better and put a bigger turbo on it, kill the drivability of the car and made it produce that kind of torque to 6500RPM then it would be even more expensive, not a lot of usable torque in the lower rev range and we would have a 350 horsepower FWD hatch.
I never mentioned 8 grand, I said at least 7. Which plenty of other sport compact turbo cars are able to do. I stand by by impression that the car is no fun when you have to short shift to make power.

There's no point for 280 ft-lbs in a FWD chassis anyway, so I'd rather have a more linear power curve and keep it fun to drive up top. You could still have PLENTY of torque down low without having it run out of breath 1500 RPM before its redline. Not sure what Mazda was thinking there.
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[QUOTE]that dyno graph starts @ 125lb/ft of torque, and I have seen dynos on stock MS3's ran to fuel cut they make atleast that much all the way to redline.
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What are you complaining about again?
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Originally Posted by replica,Oct 25 2009, 12:45 PM
I never mentioned 8 grand, I said at least 7. Which plenty of other sport compact turbo cars are able to do. I stand by by impression that the car is no fun when you have to short shift to make power.

There's no point for 280 ft-lbs in a FWD chassis anyway, so I'd rather have a more linear power curve and keep it fun to drive up top. You could still have PLENTY of torque down low without having it run out of breath 1500 RPM before its redline. Not sure what Mazda was thinking there.
Then you can buy a Civic Si and the people who prefer the MS3 can get that. Variety is great because it gives people with a different opinion another option. It would be pretty boring if every car was the same.
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Originally Posted by wickerbill,Oct 25 2009, 03:19 PM
Then you can buy a Civic Si and the people who prefer the MS3 can get that. Variety is great because it gives people with a different opinion another option. It would be pretty boring if every car was the same.
I have zero interest in any Civic. Wanted to like the MS3, but it fell short.
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this might be my next car, although they have been seeing issues on the MS3 forum of having the motors/turbos blow when removing the cats
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Originally Posted by curiouz_G,Oct 26 2009, 11:01 AM
this might be my next car, although they have been seeing issues on the MS3 forum of having the motors/turbos blow when removing the cats
motors are fine from removing cats. so are the turbo's, but basically there is a small percentage of cars that are coming from the factory with poor turbo seals and oil is getting burned off, this is normally covered up by the cat's, and once you remove one or both it becomes much more noticeable and the car will smoke like crazy.
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i got that info not from a forum but a mazda tech that works at a dealership. he says almost every MS3 that comes in that had the cat off have the same issues, either motor issues or the turbo gets blown.

just my .02
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Originally Posted by curiouz_G,Oct 26 2009, 12:33 PM
i got that info not from a forum but a mazda tech that works at a dealership. he says almost every MS3 that comes in that had the cat off have the same issues, either motor issues or the turbo gets blown.

just my .02
i wouldn't believe anything a dealer says, especially Mazda dealerships. they are notorious for not knowing shit about anything. so far anyone that stays stock tune with bolt ons seems to be doing pretty well (with the odd exception), most motors popping seem to be running overly aggressive tunes, getting crazy boost spikes. and yeah the turbo seals is definitely an issue I would take into consideration. I honestly do consider myself lucky so far that my car has been virtually problem free.


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