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Old 12-02-2009, 06:25 AM
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Default Most fuel-efficient automaker in US - Hyundai

Go figure, but I guess making small to medium sized cars and no full size trucks is what beats out other auto makers that have hybrid cars for sale. Hyundai's first hybrid goes on sale in 2011.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/01/hyundai...utomaker-in-th/

Hyundai cars averaged 30.1 miles per gallon for the 2009 model year.

Rounding out the top five are Honda (29.7 mpg), Volkswagen (29.6), Toyota (29.4) and Kia (28.0).
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It helps not having any large SUVs or trucks. Kudos to Hyundai, though; they are definitely stepping up to the plate.
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I'm taking this doesn't include "side-brands." There's no way Toyota can score so high if they include all the Lexus V6/V8s
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I dunno, Toyota is the number one selling hybrid automaker with the Prius. And then there is the Corolla, but its all offset by Tundras, Landcruisers, and the big cars like the Lexus LS. Hyundai has large/mid SUVs like the VerCruz and Santa Fe, but nothing like the low mpg Tundra.
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Like others said, this is based in part on what the company sells. Since Hyundai doesn't have any larger cars or SUVs (yet) they can't claim to get the best mileage. That doesn't mean that in each market segment they actually get better mileage. I don't care if Toyota's over all average is lower thanks to the Tundra and LS460 if I'm comparing the Camry to the Sonata. In that case all that maters is does the Camry have better mileage. This is also why I don't get on BMW's case or GM's case for having low mileage. In the segments they are in their mileage typically isn't bad.

Ferrari on the other hand. Man they don't know the first thing about fuel economy!

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Obviously, this is a bias statement they have nothing larger than a tin can.
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Dec 2 2009, 05:37 PM
Obviously, this is a bias statement they have nothing larger than a tin can.
Actually, all its cars are larger than a tin can, including the 4,400 lb Veracruz and the 4,00 lb Genesis V8. I also think the Sonata V6 beats the Camry V6 on mpg numbers. Just saying...
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Originally Posted by rockville,Dec 2 2009, 07:52 AM
Like others said, this is based in part on what the company sells. Since Hyundai doesn't have any larger cars or SUVs (yet) they can't claim to get the best mileage. That doesn't mean that in each market segment they actually get better mileage. I don't care if Toyota's over all average is lower thanks to the Tundra and LS460 if I'm comparing the Camry to the Sonata. In that case all that maters is does the Camry have better mileage. This is also why I don't get on BMW's case or GM's case for having low mileage. In the segments they are in their mileage typically isn't bad.

Ferrari on the other hand. Man they don't know the first thing about fuel economy!

Camry 22/32
Sonata 22/32

Camry V6 19/28
Sonata V6 19/29

Unless you're comparing a hybrid Camry to the Sonata, how does the Toyota get better mileage? I get what you're saying about manufacturer averages being useless (other than to meet Nazi CAFE standard), but the days of Hyundai not being competitive in gas mileage are long gone.
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Mal,

Sorry, I was attempting to make a hypothetical point. I didn't mean to imply that Hyundai wasn't competitive on mileage in segment per segment. In fact I think inside of a given segment most makers seem to be similar. The most fuel efficient fleet seems to be more about the mix of cars you sell vs any magical ability for one company to really be more efficient than the next.
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