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Old 08-12-2009, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Aug 12 2009, 08:09 AM
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Right, like you guys would pass up the opportunity to run around the track Ricky Bobby style screaming "Save me Tom Cruise!"
Old 08-12-2009, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vader1,Aug 12 2009, 09:00 AM
Really? The driver got hit head on and walked away, seems like better than I would have expected.
I agree that he did seem to come out of the wreck ok, but it is also worth considering that he was struck by a pretty small car as well.

Imagine if he had caught something more massive to the face. It might not have been so pretty.

Personally, I would chalk it up to a one in-a-million chance, but I'm just saying...
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Keep a couple of things in mind before drawing conclusions about the safety of street Loti based on this accident.

Firstly, this was a race car, which means it had a sturdy roll cage (roll *cage*, not roll bar), a race seat, and multipoint harnesses. The driver was wearing a helmet and a fire suit (although neither likely made a difference here) and probably a head-and-neck restraint as well.

Secondly, you can see from the video and the pictures of the aftermath that the Miata launched off of the Elise as if it were a ramp. This likely contributed to the Elise driver emerging essentially unscathed, as the force of the impact was redirected instead of all going straight into the Elise.

CosmosMpower, the race weight for a Spec Miata is between 2285 lbs. and 2450 lbs. including driver and gas, depending on the year of the car. Race weight of a T2 Elise is 2090 lbs., again including driver and gas.
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Aug 12 2009, 10:57 AM
Right, like you guys would pass up the opportunity to run around the track Ricky Bobby style screaming "Save me Tom Cruise!"
Tom Cruise is a very powerful man in Hollywood. I'm sure he can certainly save us when comes a time.

But not to be confused with Tom Kruse, the inventor of the Hoveround. That man is not nearly as powerful. So be sure to scream: "Save me, Tom Cruise!" and not "Save me, Tom Kruse!"
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[QUOTE=PedalFaster,Aug 12 2009, 02:11 PM] Keep a couple of things in mind before drawing conclusions about the safety of street Loti based on this accident.

Firstly, this was a race car, which means it had a sturdy roll cage (roll *cage*, not roll bar), a race seat, and multipoint harnesses.
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I saw the aftermath of a fatal Elise collision in Austin, and it looked far worse than any other small car I've seen. The chassis is glued together, and when it fails, it can do so catastrophically. W/ most other small cars, you at least have a welded steel structure and an engine ahead of you.
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Didn't BMW switch to those glued chassis in the new 5 series and 3 series?
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Glued? I'm sure it's some kind of crazy super glue, but still..why not just weld?
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i just came from the BMW plant tour in germany, they use 2 type of weld and a type of glue but the glue is only for certain parts.
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Originally Posted by Yellow_S,Aug 12 2009, 02:20 PM
Tom Cruise is a very powerful man in Hollywood. I'm sure he can certainly save us when comes a time.

But not to be confused with Tom Kruse, the inventor of the Hoveround. That man is not nearly as powerful. So be sure to scream: "Save me, Tom Cruise!" and not "Save me, Tom Kruse!"
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