Maybe I've finally realized I'm not a kid anymore?
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It seems like you're making a transition into another car that may end up being even less practical than the S2000.
The last I heard, Tesla hasn't been delivering the roadsters as promised and they're running short on cash without government aid. I definitely wouldn't bet on seeing the sedan anytime soon, if at all. Their future doesn't look too bright.
I haven't looked into Fisker much, but you risk the same problems. What if they don't live up to the hype? What if they're problematic? What if they just go out of business? Unless it becomes some kind of collectible, that's going to cause it to depreciate to nothing if parts/service aren't available.
The last I heard, Tesla hasn't been delivering the roadsters as promised and they're running short on cash without government aid. I definitely wouldn't bet on seeing the sedan anytime soon, if at all. Their future doesn't look too bright.
I haven't looked into Fisker much, but you risk the same problems. What if they don't live up to the hype? What if they're problematic? What if they just go out of business? Unless it becomes some kind of collectible, that's going to cause it to depreciate to nothing if parts/service aren't available.
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Originally Posted by Jimmies,Feb 3 2009, 10:44 AM
Because you find yourself doing 130mph on public roads often?
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I agree that Tesla has financial issues...I think they're following a little too closely to their namesake in that manner...
Once Tesla figured out that they didn't need a transmission (i.e. they hired some real engineers), the single speed Roadsters have had none of the issues of their 2-speed predecessors. They wasted alot of resources up front, but if they can deliver just half of the Roadsters that have been ordered, they should be able to survive to produce the Model S. Most of the R&D for the Model S was taken care of in the trial and error of the Roadster. The fact that they succeeded in producing an electric car with some real world performance numbers despite the odds shows that they've got a fighting chance. Hiring the director of design from Mazda N.A. shows that they mean business.
Fisker on the other hand is utilizing an existing dealer network, and the car is being manufactured in the same factory that Porsche uses to produce the Cayman and Boxter. A great deal of the EV components used in the Karma are sourced directly from GM. Despite the ailing economy, I seriously doubt that GM is going to fold up shop completely. A retooling is coming, no doubt about that, but the fact that Fisker has teamed up with some of the biggest names in the automotive industry is pretty much proof that the Karma is coming, and it's going to be wonderful.
Once Tesla figured out that they didn't need a transmission (i.e. they hired some real engineers), the single speed Roadsters have had none of the issues of their 2-speed predecessors. They wasted alot of resources up front, but if they can deliver just half of the Roadsters that have been ordered, they should be able to survive to produce the Model S. Most of the R&D for the Model S was taken care of in the trial and error of the Roadster. The fact that they succeeded in producing an electric car with some real world performance numbers despite the odds shows that they've got a fighting chance. Hiring the director of design from Mazda N.A. shows that they mean business.
Fisker on the other hand is utilizing an existing dealer network, and the car is being manufactured in the same factory that Porsche uses to produce the Cayman and Boxter. A great deal of the EV components used in the Karma are sourced directly from GM. Despite the ailing economy, I seriously doubt that GM is going to fold up shop completely. A retooling is coming, no doubt about that, but the fact that Fisker has teamed up with some of the biggest names in the automotive industry is pretty much proof that the Karma is coming, and it's going to be wonderful.
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I like the Fisker, if it had come out earlier I'd have considered corporate leasing it. I may do that in 4-5 years since I'm going to get a car this year already and can't really wait.
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Originally Posted by wildcardtrd,Feb 3 2009, 12:46 PM
$87k for the Fisker, $60k-ish for the Tesla.
The Tesla is supposed to go into production about the same time the first set of Fisker's are delivered, end of this year....
Despite the almost %50 increase in price, I cant help but think that if I get the Tesla, I'd be perfectly happy until the day I run across a Fisker, and then I'd hate myself.
The Tesla is supposed to go into production about the same time the first set of Fisker's are delivered, end of this year....
Despite the almost %50 increase in price, I cant help but think that if I get the Tesla, I'd be perfectly happy until the day I run across a Fisker, and then I'd hate myself.