M5 V10=10,000rpm
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M5 V10=10,000rpm
I just read in the new Motor Trend rag that the V10 in the new M5 was tested back at the factory at 10,000rpms for a considerable amount of time and the engine held up nicely(pg 145). Of course they had to make the production engine more reliable and what not so they lowered the redline.
My question is, Let's say that BMW made the V10 smaller(around 3 or 4 liters) could they increase the redline to 10,000 for the production engine model? Of course since the M5 is so heavy they probably needed the 5.0 liter engine size. But what if they made a smaller V10 for other cars?
Maybe the new M3 could use a 3.5 liter V10 or something that goes up to 10,000rpm reliably.
I'm not an engineer so I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. But could it be possible to have a reliable 10,000rpm redline in a production car?
My question is, Let's say that BMW made the V10 smaller(around 3 or 4 liters) could they increase the redline to 10,000 for the production engine model? Of course since the M5 is so heavy they probably needed the 5.0 liter engine size. But what if they made a smaller V10 for other cars?
Maybe the new M3 could use a 3.5 liter V10 or something that goes up to 10,000rpm reliably.
I'm not an engineer so I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. But could it be possible to have a reliable 10,000rpm redline in a production car?
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Engineering wise, it's probably entirely possible. But economically it's probably not worth it. Basically they'd have to dump a lot of R&D time into creating virtually a whole new engine, only to be used in 1 model.
But I think this is the same story for almost everything. Engineering wise, we can do almost anything. The limiting factor is just economics.
But I think this is the same story for almost everything. Engineering wise, we can do almost anything. The limiting factor is just economics.
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Originally Posted by RickF1,Oct 7 2004, 01:14 PM
I just read in the new Motor Trend rag that the V10 in the new M5 was tested back at the factory at 10,000rpms for a considerable amount of time and the engine held up nicely(pg 145). Of course they had to make the production engine more reliable and what not so they lowered the redline.
My question is, Let's say that BMW made the V10 smaller(around 3 or 4 liters) could they increase the redline to 10,000 for the production engine model? Of course since the M5 is so heavy they probably needed the 5.0 liter engine size. But what if they made a smaller V10 for other cars?
Maybe the new M3 could use a 3.5 liter V10 or something that goes up to 10,000rpm reliably.
I'm not an engineer so I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. But could it be possible to have a reliable 10,000rpm redline in a production car?
My question is, Let's say that BMW made the V10 smaller(around 3 or 4 liters) could they increase the redline to 10,000 for the production engine model? Of course since the M5 is so heavy they probably needed the 5.0 liter engine size. But what if they made a smaller V10 for other cars?
Maybe the new M3 could use a 3.5 liter V10 or something that goes up to 10,000rpm reliably.
I'm not an engineer so I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. But could it be possible to have a reliable 10,000rpm redline in a production car?
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Originally Posted by RickF1,Oct 7 2004, 03:14 PM
I just read in the new Motor Trend rag that the V10 in the new M5 was tested back at the factory at 10,000rpms for a considerable amount of time and the engine held up nicely(pg 145). Of course they had to make the production engine more reliable and what not so they lowered the redline.
My question is, Let's say that BMW made the V10 smaller(around 3 or 4 liters) could they increase the redline to 10,000 for the production engine model? Of course since the M5 is so heavy they probably needed the 5.0 liter engine size. But what if they made a smaller V10 for other cars?
Maybe the new M3 could use a 3.5 liter V10 or something that goes up to 10,000rpm reliably.
I'm not an engineer so I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. But could it be possible to have a reliable 10,000rpm redline in a production car?
My question is, Let's say that BMW made the V10 smaller(around 3 or 4 liters) could they increase the redline to 10,000 for the production engine model? Of course since the M5 is so heavy they probably needed the 5.0 liter engine size. But what if they made a smaller V10 for other cars?
Maybe the new M3 could use a 3.5 liter V10 or something that goes up to 10,000rpm reliably.
I'm not an engineer so I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. But could it be possible to have a reliable 10,000rpm redline in a production car?
Basically what you are asking for is an F1 engine. They are 3 liter V-10s that rev in excess of 20k RPM.
So my point is, manufacturers are always going to want a lower revving engine making more power, from a reliability standpoint.
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Originally Posted by Rob Nance,Oct 8 2004, 01:59 AM
Basically what you are asking for is an F1 engine. They are 3 liter V-10s that rev in excess of 20k RPM.
Not trying to prove you wrong, just genuinely wondering.
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Not too mention the manufacturing costs to build something to those tolerances. Agree with the people who have stated of course it could be done but economics wise BMW decided it was not worth it.