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Old 10-26-2009, 01:17 AM
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http://jalopnik.com/5388538/2011-lexus-lfa-first-drive

You've probably been bewildered by how much attention one car from a previously maligned automaker is getting on this and other enthusiast sites. But the attention we've paid pales in comparison to the attention to technical detail Toyota's displayed in the design and construction of the LFA. The car's gestation has taken nearly a decade not because the program had problems or limited resources, but because Toyota decided to design and build nearly every element of the LFA, its first ever supercar, in-house. Where most companies — Bugatti, Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche included — contract out things like gearboxes and the design and construction of carbon fiber components, Lexus chose to teach itself how to make those things better than anyone else, then build its own tools in order to make them.

Take the carbon fiber, for instance. To make the LFA's, Toyota created one of only two circular looms in the entire world, then used it to simultaneously weave one tube of carbon inside another. They built this system just to make the A-pillars on the car.

It's hard not to appreciate the amount of effort and tremendous R&D they've invested in creating this car.
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damn, i was wondering why it was so expensive. thats one well built car.
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So the buyers are paying for tooling costs?
I guess it means there may be more cf super cars in the future.
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At $375k for only 500 copies, that's only $187.5mm. That is nothing and won't even cover a portion of the R&D cost, much less production cost. Kudos to Lexus for building it. I hope the technology trickles down to an LS-F or GS-F with a detuned V10 as I would seriously consider getting one if the price isn't unreasonable. A BMW M5 with a better transmission and better reliability with maybe a slight loss in chassis dynamics.
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Someones flaunting some MAJOR cash around in this economy...
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They should have sold 999 of them instead, I don't see how they justify selling only 500 of them. Any number under 1,000 is very exclusive.
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Agreed,

I wanna see as many LF-As on the road as there are civics!
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I'm gonna make a guess and say the 500 number is marketing. Toyota is smart and knows 500 might be a hard sell at 375k, so they're going to try and make it exclusive. If it does sell, they're going to up the numbers to 750, 1000, whatever.

The fact is, Toyota doesn't have the pedigree that Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti, etc. has to make them feel secure about sales numbers. Hell, even Bugattis have trouble selling don't they? That's why the keep making all these special edition 1 or 2 off cars.

Look at what Nissan did with the GT-R... low balled the initial launch price, and now the sucker is up at 80+k.

Just a guess.
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Was it Enzo Ferrari who said to always build one less car than you can sell? Seems like Toyota is pursuing a similar strategy here.
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I thought the redline was 9000? 9500 is nuts...

That new FT86 concept is money in the bank!


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