8kGoodENuff

You also have to take into account the demographic that the car is sold to as well... ie... more than likely, you're going to find the more 20-somethings buy VW (which abuse the car more) compared to say Buick, where you find that the more elderly buy those cars (which usually drive slow and in a less abusive manner).

Andre

marthafokker

Try to explain Suzuki and Isuzu then, Dr. Statistics...

I hope you don't use the 20 something and abuse argument.

8kGoodENuff

On a smaller scale but think about this...

Take two quarters and consider each quarter to be a manufacturer, each flip of a coin to be one car that is sold in the US, heads to be no problem at all and tails to be a problem with the car.

Take coin 1 and flip 2 times and both land on heads, which means that 100% percent of the time, something will not go wrong with each car.

Take coin 2 and flip it, say, 20 times, and you will see that the more times you flip the coin, the more likely, or the more of a CHANCE that you will have something going wrong with the car.

So if you think about it for a few minutes... it does make sense.

And you also have other variables to consider such as location (differences in climates) of where most of the cars are sold as well... too many factors to make an honest conclusion.

Andre

8kGoodENuff

Sorry guys... but there's more to probability and statistics other than just a percentage. Open your minds a bit.

Andre

marthafokker

Or build boring cars like Toyota. That way, no one drives crazy and no kids want them, quality problem solved.

Edit: wait... that did not explain Suzuki and Izusu.

y2ks2k

That leads to fear and hate young Jedi.

As we have already seen in this thread.. it leads to crazy rationalizations as to why the percentage doesn't work. you see this a lot in politics. Call it "spinning" a overwhelmingly negative number to make it seem like it fits your argument.

8kGoodENuff

I wouldn't call it "spinning", but rather viewing something for it's actuality instead of agreeing to something cause it suites the person's own argument.

So... not such an epic fail as you thought...

Andre

Malloric

..... Wow, this thread delivers the stupid. If you're talking about something ultra-rare like oh say a Bugatti Veyron the small sample size is a factor. For any of the brands JD powers reports that isn't an issue.

The only misleading bit about the "per 100" part is it makes the difference look larger. From Buick to VW the difference is 1.4 incidence per car. I'd like to think that this is obvious... but well, yah.

droptoppsycho

The only prius that's cool is the $40k model. VW sucks (i've had six), and thus you're left with the $20k insight that has the interior build quality of what seems like an old CRX.

Incubus

If those coin flips ended up tails then you'd be arguing against yourself.
If only one flip of that first coin ended up tails then the rate jumps 50%.

With more cars on the road, there are more chances for something to go wrong, but then there are more cars doing alright to make up for it.