Jaguar F Type
10-02-2012, 04:41 AM
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What???? rivet bonding most advance metal body construction???? That's an old method utilize by a lot of companies to join different materials
the newest XKR or XKR-S are GT cars trying to be sport cars. The bad thing is while trying to do two things at the same time it doesn't do any of them good.
the newest XKR or XKR-S are GT cars trying to be sport cars. The bad thing is while trying to do two things at the same time it doesn't do any of them good.
What other automotive manufacturer is doing aluminum rivet bonding construction since there is a lot of them?
10-02-2012, 04:47 AM
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One thing that is apparently forgotten in these discussions is that as short as shift times might be in dual-clutch automatics, torque converter autos never are out of gear - power is constantly being delivered to the wheels. You won't experience quite the "slammed in the back" feeling with a torque converter transmission for that reason. It would be incorrect to assume that feeling indicates some advantage over the power delivery of a torque converter transmission.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
10-02-2012, 06:01 AM
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One thing that is apparently forgotten in these discussions is that as short as shift times might be in dual-clutch automatics, torque converter autos never are out of gear - power is constantly being delivered to the wheels. You won't experience quite the "slammed in the back" feeling with a torque converter transmission for that reason. It would be incorrect to assume that feeling indicates some advantage over the power delivery of a torque converter transmission.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
10-02-2012, 06:58 AM
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DSG/DCT/SMG type transmissions let the driver tell the car when and how to shift. Automatics generally do not. Therein lies the difference.
10-02-2012, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NuncoStr8' timestamp='1349182044' post='22052135
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
DSG/DCT/SMG type transmissions let the driver tell the car when and how to shift. Automatics generally do not. Therein lies the difference.
10-02-2012, 07:24 AM
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To me, it looks very much like an S2000 inspired, yet very Jag or "British" as well. Like an "adult" S2000. Has a little Maserati too.
10-02-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1349189925' post='22052472
[quote name='NuncoStr8' timestamp='1349182044' post='22052135']
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
DSG/DCT/SMG type transmissions let the driver tell the car when and how to shift. Automatics generally do not. Therein lies the difference.
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Pig with lipstick...
10-02-2012, 08:53 AM
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Dynamic Launch Control on this car is an idiot light. With the car in gear you hold the brake and press on the gas until a light comes on. The silly thing is everyone else in the world calls this "brake boosting," and don't need a dash light because the transmission will hold the engine rpms at the stall speed anyway. Once you let off the gas, away you go.
As has already been covered, ALL torque converter autos will shift with no break in torque delivery. IOW, it is pretty standard stuff.
I personally would not buy a car like this without a manual transmission, but I also realize that the vast majority of buyers want autos, and most probably don't care and wouldn't notice the difference between a traditional torque converter auto and an automated manual design, regardless of the number of clutches. It doesn't make sense for low volume models to be offered with a manual transmission very few buyers will want.
10-02-2012, 08:55 AM
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One thing that is apparently forgotten in these discussions is that as short as shift times might be in dual-clutch automatics, torque converter autos never are out of gear - power is constantly being delivered to the wheels. You won't experience quite the "slammed in the back" feeling with a torque converter transmission for that reason. It would be incorrect to assume that feeling indicates some advantage over the power delivery of a torque converter transmission.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
New style DCT/DSG/PDK style transmissions mean no power loss during gear shift, just so you know.
10-02-2012, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1349189925' post='22052472
[quote name='NuncoStr8' timestamp='1349182044' post='22052135']
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
On a side note, pretending DCT/SMG style transmissions are somehow not "automatic transmissions" is just humorous.
DSG/DCT/SMG type transmissions let the driver tell the car when and how to shift. Automatics generally do not. Therein lies the difference.
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Face it. For performance sports cars, any type of ZF is far inferior to a DCT/DSG/PDK.
This isn't even a discussion, it's fact.