VIC4UF

I had a 99 Civic and now an 08 Fit. I would much rather my Fit that has warranty and is ultra reliable than have my old Civic that had 99K miles on it. Your argument is funny. Tell us more why you think a 10yr old Civic is better than a newer model Honda.

GPWonTan

i value your point about lightweight. i think all of us s2000 drivers do.
but just because you drive a s2k doesn't mean you wouldn't buy another car (DD, family hauler) and can't value safety & comfort - especially when there are loved ones involved. like you said, to each his own. that's why all cars have their strong and weak pts and hence this discussion

ZDan

There was a time, not so long ago, when it was a given that cars in the future would be LIGHTER-WEIGHT.

And they SHOULD be. Advancements in design, materials, construction techniques, etc. etc. etc. mean that we should be able to maintain or even increase safety with REDUCED mass. And no, I'm not talking about "exotic" more expensive materials/processes. I'm talking about more with less at the same price point. Real PROGRESS.

Over the past 15-20 years, the automakers have gone overboard with MORE IS MORE being their mantra.

We are LONG overdue to begin doing MORE with LESS. That is what the future *should* hold for us.

Abdizzle

[QUOTE=s2000craze,Jun 4 2009, 05:51 AM]I had a 99 Civic and now an 08 Fit. I would much rather my Fit that has warranty and is ultra reliable than have my old Civic that had 99K miles on it. Your argument is funny. Tell us more why you think a 10yr old Civic is better than a newer model Honda.

Incubus

I won't lie. For me, I'd get the Fit over a 19 year old car because I don't want to drive an old car anymore.

I want the new features that weren't available with my current car: steering wheel mounted radio controls, cupholders that work, TCS, side-mounted and passenger airbags, rear speakers, and not least of all: an air conditioner that works when I'm idling (I don't know how well the Fit's A/C works, but it has to be better than mine).

The warranty is nice, but not a dealmaker. The reliability of my old car is bulletproof, but I know deep down that it's not going to last forever and I won't put another dollar into it except for oil changes. If I'm going to spend $300 on a car it will be a payment on a new car...not repairs on an old one.

y2ks2k

[QUOTE=Incubus,Jun 4 2009, 08:36 AM] I won't lie.

corey415

Big plus with Insight EX is that it comes with VSA. You have to get navi with the Fit Sport to get VSA.

The Vanishing Boy

Fit vs. Civic?-> Why do we have to compare a classic Civic over a modern Fit anyway? It boggles me quite frankly and we're getting off-topic post by post!

BT-> To summarize both the Fit S and the Insight EX based on fist glances. Take note I haven't tried these two cars as of yet, but I would think it just a matter of personal preference really.

Insight-> Sure it takes the crown as the 'most fun to drive hybrid'. But I'm still not convinced its initial and long term cost of the vehicle. Plus with its sheer complexity of its mechanics/electronics starts to scare me and my friends. And as a 'driving for fun' type of guy, a M/T is surely be missed.

Fit-> The car is almost a complete opposite without losing or even gaining more of the 'fun to drive' index. I just love it's interior flexibility, and simplicity. I drove the the last-gen Fit, all I get is a smile on my face, and I bet I would feel the same thing too with this new one. The Fit matches my preference quite perfectly as a backup car to my S.

Saint_Spinner

I test drove both, since we were in the market for both. At the end the insight won. But when it comes to driving, I'd say they're on equal grounds. The fit wins with the availability of manual, but the insight is just as tossable with some more electrical torque. And there really isn't anything new with the insight's technology. They'be been using the IMA for quite a while now. Don't all hybrids turn off/on?