exb00st

You mean, you're not mesmerized by this dyno queen either?

Johnny Sack

600whp is like 12psi on a LS1/2, with a wicked powerband too. and as far as the GTR goes 600whp isnt impressive there either. a 600whp car with 22's is in itself a rolling irony lesson imho.

sahtt

... I just can't understand/believe how someone can say 600whp is not impressive. Relative to what? The acceleration of a 1000cc+ super sport or an F1 car? I've been in a 512whp 97 impreza with a 05 sti drive train, and the launch of an awd car like that is awe inspiring if done correctly. I daily a 200+hp motorcycle that will clear 210mph and 600whp cars (more power than -any- ferrari ever built except maybe the FXX....) still impress me. I think some of guys play Gran Turismo too much. Otherwise post up all your 600+whp cars.

Mark355

[QUOTE=sahtt,Oct 28 2009, 02:47 PM]... I just can't understand/believe how someone can say 600whp is not impressive.

sahtt

I'm waiting for all their 600whp (nearly 700bhp on an awd car most likely) rides.

exb00st

IMO, the reason 600 WHP is not impressive is because it's been done over and over again on previous generations of GT-Rs and ass loads of other cars. Being that the R35 is already much more powerful stock, 600 WHP is even less impressive for a "tuner" who's bragging about being at the forefront of development for the GT-R.

Who cares if I don't have a 600 WHP car. Doesn't mean I couldn't get one if I wanted one. I can still have an opinion. So can everyone else. If my "business" was a dyno-queen GT-R, I would never make a promotional video with "only" 600 WHP.

sahtt

Yea and mine is yours has very little/no substance. You almost sound like a child at the end there. The car does appear to have 450whp or so stock, but my guess is 600whp is about the top of the range of usable power anyways. There is a lot more to development than horsepower. Typically people need some credibility before claiming someone else's work/project/car is unsatisfactory and be taken seriously while doing so. Otherwise people get the impression he/she is just full of $hit.

You may be a millionaire who is an expert at tuning GTR's, but I doubt it.

exb00st

Really? I thought you just threw money at the car and it magically turned into HP. No shit development is involved, and I never claimed the car was unsatisfactory. I said "who cares", it's "only" 600 WHP – and I will say it again, it's not impressive because it has been done before.

You think my opinion has no substance? Who decides when HP is unusable? You think 600 WHP is the threshold of usable? LOL. OK speed racer. Good luck using all that power on the street. Usable power is moot anyway for dyno queens.

FWIW, I'd give much more credit to this car if it were an individual's car, and not a tuner's.

http://www.alteredatmosphere.com/customers/c-jorge-gtr/

http://www.switzerperformanceinnovation.com/main.html

Johnny Sack

because some of us grew up with V8's. 600whp V8 is nothing special. when youre around 9-10sec daily driven camaros/vettes/chevelles/nova's, a TT V6 with 600whp is nothing really. i.e my uncles boat makes 850hp with a 555ci Merlin motor, and 1000cfm demon carb on pump gas.

yes there are more than one way to make power, but i think the import crowd forgets that big horsepower isnt new, cars have been fast and making 500+ hp for the last 50yrs almost.


so yes, count my unimpressed. as crazy at it may seem. on forums like ls1tech 600whp is litterally childs play, just a D1SC and exhasut away on a ls1 car. maybe im failing to make my point. i dunno.

sahtt

uncle's 850 horsepower boat huh.. that's 'unique'.

Neither of you posted your 600whp rides, despite it being 'child's play', so your point wasn't made convincingly to me, but I've lost interest in this "discussion".

I'm not purposefully trying to be a dick but it's a little comical to here people claim what a joke 600whp is, considering I am not aware of more than a few million dollar super cars that achieve that goal. I've also done a lot of drag racing at a few different tracks and very few street driven cars, like the GTR mentioned apparently is, put down 600whp, much less efficiently. The z06 did change that to some degree but that's the exception, not the rule.