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Old 04-20-2005, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vvtli78k,Apr 18 2005, 03:39 PM
nissan has the same 3.5 v6 in their altima, maxima, Z, g35, fx35, i35. g35 sedan, m35, murano, not sure about frontier, neways i guess that is how they save money. very few hondas and acuras share the same engine
They also share the same engine in the nissan quest. These cars also share the same chassis as well and the quality of these cars alike most manufacturers are super cheap. Nissan has the biggest profit gains of any automotive manufacturer at the moment.
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Originally Posted by esracer,Apr 19 2005, 01:21 PM
Well you can shave those 200lbs probably pretty easily, and plus this year the power was bumped up to 298hp close enough to 300
There was an article in SCC or something like that recently, they completely stripped the interior of their project 350z to the point where it was nothing but a driver's seat and a steering wheel pretty much, and I don't think they even made 200lbs in weight savings.
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Originally Posted by Saint_Spinner,Apr 20 2005, 09:25 AM
hmmmm...I guess its a generation thing. I'm 27, and I remember Honda dominating in F1...I guess the 240z days were too early for me to remember
Well you should know who Paul Newman is.

And JTGC is not a minor event, its a multi-billion dollar industry with several companies fighting it out for respectability and thus sales. Honda is known for their range of reduced performance (all are FWD and therefore cheaper to make) but slightly better interior and build. Mazda is sort of in between, Toyota is the mass car making master, Mitsubishi and Subaru was never known for quality or performance in the early days but they've made some innovative cars and designs, Nissan has always been the most popular maker for sports cars because they make so many :

- Pulsar GTiR
- Silvia (S13,S14, S15)
- 180SX (300zx/Fairlady's younger brother)
- 300zx/350z
- Skyline/GTR (R30, R31, R32, R33, R34)

Nissan's problem was that they made too many different cars. Perhaps they were playing around with new ideas and designs too much and got themselves into debt. I could list the entire range of Nissans made during the 90s and today, its really quite astounding. Today they are a lot more focus and getting back into the game.
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A few years ago, I thought Nissan was going to collap totally, but Renault bailed them out and Carlos Ghosn became its CEO. Then it turned itself around. Nowadays, all 3 of Honda, Toyota and Nissan are on the rise. Mitsu is going to collap, IMO, unless it is bailed out by some other company. In all of Honda's existence, the company has never reported a loss of profit, which I always find very amazing.
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