Hyundai Genesis Coupe Spec R
10-27-2009, 09:19 AM
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Hyundai Genesis Coupe Spec R
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/27/hyundai...ly-delivers/#at
It comes with the I4, all the Track package performance options, and four basic colors, ready for aftermarket modding, for $23.7k.
It comes with the I4, all the Track package performance options, and four basic colors, ready for aftermarket modding, for $23.7k.
10-27-2009, 09:35 AM
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A LOT of car for 23.7K. Smart of them to offer the 2.0T engine...you know for a fact majority of the people buying these cars won't keep them stock, and Hyundai knows that.
10-27-2009, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by shyong,Oct 27 2009, 09:35 AM
A LOT of car for 23.7K. Smart of them to offer the 2.0T engine...you know for a fact majority of the people buying these cars won't keep them stock, and Hyundai knows that.
10-27-2009, 10:00 AM
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What's cool is that it comes with camber bolts. What's not cool is that those camber bolts are not installed from the factory, rendering them illegal for SCCA Stock class autocrossing. Seems like whoever thought of this package didn't do enough research into the target market first...
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10-27-2009, 10:09 AM
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Really a great deal. I haven't followed up on the 2.0T motor to see what kind of upgrades are out there but I'd imagine pumping out 270-300 hp (at the crank) isn't too difficult. I'll bet that the $3K you save, plus another $2K, would get you there reliably and safely. Not bad for $28K.
That said, you can get an Evo X for $29K and I'm not sure I wouldn't just go straight to that and get 290+ hp with handling to back it up.
That said, you can get an Evo X for $29K and I'm not sure I wouldn't just go straight to that and get 290+ hp with handling to back it up.
10-27-2009, 11:04 AM
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The same architecture, yes, but the motors are completely different in how they're built and what materials they employ.
1. While the Hyundai 4B is similar in many ways, there are very few common parts. The block, head, pistons, rods, crank, etc. are all similar, but different. Different in that they are lower grade. Hyundai’s rods are powder sintered whereas Mitsubishi’s are forged. Mitsubishi’s pistons are made by Mahle and have a oil reservoir underneath the dish like a Porsche turbo piston. Hyundai’s cast piston is no different in strength compared to one of their passenger cars. Hyundai’s 4B block has far less webbing (this is visible from the exterior). The differences go on and on. That doesn’t mean the Hyundai parts suck. It’s just that the Mitsubishi 4B11T is way better out of the box. While the parts are different, that doesn’t mean that the Mitsubishi pistons, rods, and crank cannot fit into a Hyundai 4B.
2. The cylinder head is different enough that the exhaust manifold and intake manifold flanges and gaskets are not common. They are absolutely different so there will be no manifold and turbo swapping. The Mitsu engine is mounted transverse and it is very likely that the castings wouldn’t work anyway.
So, I agree they can get more power out of it but I think it'll be more difficult to do it reliably. That said, with better cooling, more boost, and a good tuner, I'd expect them to crack 290-300 whp by the end of the year (I believe Greddy is showing their kit at SEMA?)
1. While the Hyundai 4B is similar in many ways, there are very few common parts. The block, head, pistons, rods, crank, etc. are all similar, but different. Different in that they are lower grade. Hyundai’s rods are powder sintered whereas Mitsubishi’s are forged. Mitsubishi’s pistons are made by Mahle and have a oil reservoir underneath the dish like a Porsche turbo piston. Hyundai’s cast piston is no different in strength compared to one of their passenger cars. Hyundai’s 4B block has far less webbing (this is visible from the exterior). The differences go on and on. That doesn’t mean the Hyundai parts suck. It’s just that the Mitsubishi 4B11T is way better out of the box. While the parts are different, that doesn’t mean that the Mitsubishi pistons, rods, and crank cannot fit into a Hyundai 4B.
2. The cylinder head is different enough that the exhaust manifold and intake manifold flanges and gaskets are not common. They are absolutely different so there will be no manifold and turbo swapping. The Mitsu engine is mounted transverse and it is very likely that the castings wouldn’t work anyway.
So, I agree they can get more power out of it but I think it'll be more difficult to do it reliably. That said, with better cooling, more boost, and a good tuner, I'd expect them to crack 290-300 whp by the end of the year (I believe Greddy is showing their kit at SEMA?)