How Did We End Up With a Big Sedan Integra?
#51
In a sense, the issue with the CTR is that their market got old Well not exactly but kinda. Honda looked at all the tacky things did with the bland old Hondas and tried to go back at those people with a factory car that looked like street racer car I think. Problem is that the kids that used to slap big tacky wings on early 2000's or earlier Hondas are grown up now and the ones that were into that overdone stuff are over it and dont want it now. And the younger crowd that still is into all that can't afford it. So it is a car priced and aimed at people who "grew out" of the racer boy car look and the ones that like it most cannot afford it yet. Just my thoughts. Had they come up with a car like that 20 years ago, half the people on here hating it would have been drooling over it lol.
#53
In a sense, the issue with the CTR is that their market got old Well not exactly but kinda. Honda looked at all the tacky things did with the bland old Hondas and tried to go back at those people with a factory car that looked like street racer car I think. Problem is that the kids that used to slap big tacky wings on early 2000's or earlier Hondas are grown up now and the ones that were into that overdone stuff are over it and dont want it now. And the younger crowd that still is into all that can't afford it. So it is a car priced and aimed at people who "grew out" of the racer boy car look and the ones that like it most cannot afford it yet. Just my thoughts. Had they come up with a car like that 20 years ago, half the people on here hating it would have been drooling over it lol.
That doesn't sound like a problem to me.
#54
I mean I think the outgoing CTR is hideous and its styling a joke. However, I'm not sure this car is/was an "issue" for Honda. They've sold very well. I see them all the time, demand is still high, and I'm not sure they were really ever sold at or below MSRP. Probably sold as many as they could.
That doesn't sound like a problem to me.
That doesn't sound like a problem to me.
#55
Looks like enthusiasts are getting on board with this and talking with their wallets.
70% of pre-orders are manual.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/44813/...for-the-manual
70% of pre-orders are manual.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/44813/...for-the-manual
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#56
I'm starting to warm up to it, not to say I like it, but I'm coming around with the appeal for the car. A super practical car that a dude with a young family can have, cost effective with running costs, should have Honda reliability, and doesn't break the bank, but has just enough fun to not want to swerve into oncoming traffic.
I still think had they put the 2.0 engine into it, it'd be something to really consider, but as it is it's just a hatchback SI with a better interior, which I suppose isn't a terribly bad thing, just a bit underwhelming. And now I get why the Si here got decontented, because Americans want some sort of brand name.
I still think had they put the 2.0 engine into it, it'd be something to really consider, but as it is it's just a hatchback SI with a better interior, which I suppose isn't a terribly bad thing, just a bit underwhelming. And now I get why the Si here got decontented, because Americans want some sort of brand name.
#57
I maintain that not dropping in the Accord's 2.0T as the base engine is a big error on Acura's part.
Add to that dropping the dual clutch transmission the previous ILX had, in favor of a CVT...gross.
Finally, the manual isn't available on the BASE SPEC model...SMH
Add to that dropping the dual clutch transmission the previous ILX had, in favor of a CVT...gross.
Finally, the manual isn't available on the BASE SPEC model...SMH
#58
The end product seems a bit better than what I initially saw of it. I like the adaptive dampers that the higher trim level gets, it was not an option on my Si unfortunately. Some of the interior trim appointments are nicer than the Si, but I guess it all factors into the price.
#59
Consider that this is essentially a Civic Si with the content that many people want, with an available CVT for those that don't want to row their own gears. But you can still get a 6MT and higher spec/content if you want.
Canadians have a more fully-spec'd Civic Si so it's less of a draw here but for Americans, the Integra is really the Civic Si that they wanted, albeit at a price premium. The Integra looks miles better on the outside, in my opinion.
Canadians have a more fully-spec'd Civic Si so it's less of a draw here but for Americans, the Integra is really the Civic Si that they wanted, albeit at a price premium. The Integra looks miles better on the outside, in my opinion.
#60
Consider that this is essentially a Civic Si with the content that many people want, with an available CVT for those that don't want to row their own gears. But you can still get a 6MT and higher spec/content if you want.
Canadians have a more fully-spec'd Civic Si so it's less of a draw here but for Americans, the Integra is really the Civic Si that they wanted, albeit at a price premium. The Integra looks miles better on the outside, in my opinion.
Canadians have a more fully-spec'd Civic Si so it's less of a draw here but for Americans, the Integra is really the Civic Si that they wanted, albeit at a price premium. The Integra looks miles better on the outside, in my opinion.
The thought of adaptive dampers plays tricks with my mind, when I started my search for the 2022 Civic Si I thought for sure it was coming with adaptive dampers, but it did not. I really wanted the adaptive dampers but I've been told from owners of the 10th gen that they were not all that useful. I know I would never drive around with them on full soft, as that would feel terrible, and the sport setting might not be far off the settings already built into my fixed damper setup. So a nice option to have but at the end of the day they might not be all that useful if they turn out like the 2-stage adaptive system of the 10th gen. A 3-stage system would be more useful with soft, normal, and sport settings, I'd like to find out how the Integra system works if it is like the 10th gen or an improved system.
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