Honda S3000 3.0L 360hp 8k redline 3000lbs
03-26-2015, 07:39 AM
#21
Tilt the motor, lower the displacement, do whatever it takes, that would be a badass motor.
03-26-2015, 09:07 AM
#22
Wasn't the whole "Porsche has the highest profit margin" notion dispelled? I thought the way that $20k per car figure was arrived at was by taking their profit for a particularly prosperous year and diving it by the units they sold that year, but the problem was that most of their profit came from stock market finagling related to Porsche trying to buy VW.
03-27-2015, 11:15 AM
#23
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Would give up my AP1 for a new version with those specs. As long as it's not fugly.
03-27-2015, 05:28 PM
#24
It is pretty dumb to buy these soulless cars for $30k, that are going to be worth $18k in 3 years.... Not too mention the interest that was charged on top of it.
03-27-2015, 05:52 PM
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We get re-badged Vauxhalls from GM if they would have used the original vx220 for the sky/solstice I think it would have been a much better car. Something that could compete with the S2000 performance wise. I am not sure about the interior build quality and it does not have classic good looks either.
The NA model weighs 1,918 lbs and has a 2.2L with 145HP and 150TQ 0-60 in 5.7s which is probably as fast or a little faster than an AP1
The turbo model weighs 2,050lbs and has a 2L turbo with 197hp and 195TQ 0-60 in 4.2s it looks like some version of the engine produce up to 240hp.
Their are probably a ton of reasons why we cannot have this in the US it also may not be that reliable. This car seems like it would be a lot more fun than a 3000lb car with 300hp..
The NA model weighs 1,918 lbs and has a 2.2L with 145HP and 150TQ 0-60 in 5.7s which is probably as fast or a little faster than an AP1
The turbo model weighs 2,050lbs and has a 2L turbo with 197hp and 195TQ 0-60 in 4.2s it looks like some version of the engine produce up to 240hp.
Their are probably a ton of reasons why we cannot have this in the US it also may not be that reliable. This car seems like it would be a lot more fun than a 3000lb car with 300hp..
03-27-2015, 07:58 PM
#26
Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.' timestamp='1426986057' post='23549678
Wasn't the whole "Porsche has the highest profit margin" notion dispelled? I thought the way that $20k per car figure was arrived at was by taking their profit for a particularly prosperous year and diving it by the units they sold that year, but the problem was that most of their profit came from stock market finagling related to Porsche trying to buy VW.
The profit margins on those options are insane, and one of the reasons why I shop the secondary market. I do pretty well, but I don't see myself shopping for a new Porsche anytime in the next decade (or two).
03-27-2015, 09:45 PM
#27
Originally Posted by hariku821
We get re-badged Vauxhalls from GM if they would have used the original vx220 for the sky/solstice I think it would have been a much better car. Something that could compete with the S2000 performance wise. I am not sure about the interior build quality and it does not have classic good looks either.
The NA model weighs 1,918 lbs and has a 2.2L with 145HP and 150TQ 0-60 in 5.7s which is probably as fast or a little faster than an AP1
The turbo model weighs 2,050lbs and has a 2L turbo with 197hp and 195TQ 0-60 in 4.2s it looks like some version of the engine produce up to 240hp.
Their are probably a ton of reasons why we cannot have this in the US it also may not be that reliable. This car seems like it would be a lot more fun than a 3000lb car with 300hp..
The NA model weighs 1,918 lbs and has a 2.2L with 145HP and 150TQ 0-60 in 5.7s which is probably as fast or a little faster than an AP1
The turbo model weighs 2,050lbs and has a 2L turbo with 197hp and 195TQ 0-60 in 4.2s it looks like some version of the engine produce up to 240hp.
Their are probably a ton of reasons why we cannot have this in the US it also may not be that reliable. This car seems like it would be a lot more fun than a 3000lb car with 300hp..
03-29-2015, 02:39 PM
#28
I would take a lesser potent version of the 1.6 liter boosted v6 engine theyre using in with the Honda/McLaren indy cars now.. 2800-3000 lbs 2door coupe with the option of a convertible version like the 370z.. rear wheel drive standard or awd for those in bad weather states would help with less accidents since a lot of people cant handle rwd on a normal basis.. Honda could make this for about 40k or less today believe me..If Nissan can keep their 370z in production why cant Honda make something similar
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03-30-2015, 10:04 AM
#29
v6 and turbos? BAH! Blasphemy! Heritage sells (but I guess turbos and horsepower do, too)
My AP3 formula:
-Keep the price ~$30k and RWD only.
-2.4 Liter, 250 hp/250 tq 8k - 9k rpm with the latest DI and variable timing/lift tech (I would also consider a 2L turbo with 300/300, but it still needs to rev to at least 8k).
-6sp manual or DCT options
-Updated ap2 platform, fixed roof with convertible option
-Same hard edged suspension (minus the 4x4 gap, why does only BMW get this right??), NO secretary base model
-weight ~2800 lb
Sit back and watch it sell. This formula would be relatively inexpensive to produce, appeal to more people, but remain exclusively a pure sports car.
Part 2:
-Open up the Honda performance catalog for bolt-in roll bars, exhaust, suspension, functional aero, ECU retune, etc.
-start spec race series
(yes, this is sealing a page from mazda. Look at how much press that squinty new miata is getting though)
My AP3 formula:
-Keep the price ~$30k and RWD only.
-2.4 Liter, 250 hp/250 tq 8k - 9k rpm with the latest DI and variable timing/lift tech (I would also consider a 2L turbo with 300/300, but it still needs to rev to at least 8k).
-6sp manual or DCT options
-Updated ap2 platform, fixed roof with convertible option
-Same hard edged suspension (minus the 4x4 gap, why does only BMW get this right??), NO secretary base model
-weight ~2800 lb
Sit back and watch it sell. This formula would be relatively inexpensive to produce, appeal to more people, but remain exclusively a pure sports car.
Part 2:
-Open up the Honda performance catalog for bolt-in roll bars, exhaust, suspension, functional aero, ECU retune, etc.
-start spec race series
(yes, this is sealing a page from mazda. Look at how much press that squinty new miata is getting though)
